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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Thu, May-09-2019, 03:05:48 PM   #11
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The e36 has a single, asymmetrical centre vent and the side vents are also asym... so it won't be able to look the same as the e46 version, it will need to be e36 specific, for the centre the panel will need to be much wider. Although I'd probably prefer the RHS vent (RHD car).

This is why I'd want to understand what you had planned.
I totally understand, i had E36 in the past.
The filter will cover the vent from one side to the other, in the E46 it has a separator in the middle that's why it's 2 separate sections.
My plan for the E36 is to remove the bottom 2 air vent slots/fins use a one wide filter and possibly fit 4 gauges behind it for whoever needs that much, the same in my E46 application.
someone here did it on the E36 after i built mine in the driver side, but it seem like they lost the air vent functionality https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...wideband/page2
My goal is to keep the functionality with any gauge i work with.
While i get an actual air vent in hand to check in details can someone get me measurements of the gauge horizontal and between the lower 3 slots?

The gauges don't have to be fit in in the air vent, they can be fitted any where you prefer as long as there is enough space.

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I'd likt to know where the gauge gets its data from. Don't need an extra oil temp to install somewhere. It should be read directly off the DME, although I have a feeling this may not be the case.

That's where the OpenOBC could've (should've?) been the ultimate solution. 100% factory look, with option of displaying all DME data.

M3AN: don't have it at hand, on IG there is a pic of the E36 version of this setup. Much better than the ugly prototype Awron gauge solution.
These are simple custom built gauges they won't be able to read the BUS directly from the car unless a translator board is build which it won't be cheap.
So it will be using it's sensor, if you have some data on the factory temp sensor and it's compatible with the gauge i don't see why we can't T a signal from there, but have to check with the gauges engineers first.
Keep in mind that some functionality come with it's own sensors and some require additional controllers to be bought. Just kinda showing this out, costs can range between $190 ~ $390 depending on functions, combinations and sensors.

Guys feel free to ask any questions or if you have any concerns.
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That's the main thing. There is so much info on the bus/txd/rxd available, fitting extra sensors to get the same info is futile.

Maybe I just need a very small screen, so I can display Inpa's screens in it.
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That's the main thing. There is so much info on the bus/txd/rxd available, fitting extra sensors to get the same info is futile.
That's true, but keep in mind the cost of the board that has to be built for this that's in my opinion can double the cost here.

Simpler, extra sensors and cheaper VS more complex, extra electronics and higher cost.
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Just go with the VDO vision gauges in the sunglass cubby. It's period correct.
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Just go with the VDO vision gauges in the sunglass cubby. It's period correct.
If only I had a cubby...
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Just go with the VDO vision gauges in the sunglass cubby. It's period correct.
The placement is super bad though.
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Seriously? Bad placement? Just how often are you looking? Just a glance and you know something is different... Now if that’s where the tach or speedo were, then yeah, that would be a problem...lol
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On the streets it's probably not a big issue to look down, but on track... No way. Big distraction to have to look down all the time.

OP, solid idea but I'm afraid I'm with the rest on the dot matrix thing. Maybe you can find another supplier.
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Now that I'm seeing the Alpina guages. BMW does use the LCD style display in the cluster, so depending on where the gauges are located, I guess LCD can be good as well.

If only, wel they didn't, but if only, BMW went one step further, and implemented at least the oil temperature in the SMG1 LCD display. No need at all to omit the oil temp. There's room to spare. Oh well...
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Even when I was racing SCCA Nationals in GT cars, the only time I checked gauges was on a straight. Then again I had really big and bright warnings for low pressures and high temps.. Think LED's aimed at your eyeballs.
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