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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Sun, Apr-14-2019, 11:02:15 PM   #31
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Default Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?

I wouldn't use 70% IPA, dilute it to under 20%. That's what most detailers recommend for degreasing. It's not really a primary cleaner either, use something less aggressive for actual scrubbing like dish soap that is easy on your hands. Follow up with IPA for a quick wipe to remove the cleaner you used and any left over grease.

Definitely wouldn't use Acetone either, that will burn through the leather paint in no time.
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This was more an experiment to see its effect.

Is our leather painted or dyed?
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I'd say painted.
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Yo guys .. qq . What about leatherique ? That’s what I’ve been planning on doing . Should I not bother ?
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Yo guys .. qq . What about leatherique ? That’s what I’ve been planning on doing . Should I not bother ?
Not on this car seat leather.
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Not on this car seat leather.


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This was more an experiment to see its effect.

Is our leather painted or dyed?
Painted also referred to as pigmented. Dyed does not hold up to years of UV exposure.
It's also a lot more expensive to have dyed leather. You need leather pieces which are borderline perfect as is.
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Took me some while as Simple Green is not readily sold anywhere, but I found a German supplier and just put in an order for a starter kit and refills.

Can't wait to give it a go.

Do wonder wonder what out leather would look unpainted. Is there something like a 'base' color.

Still with black leather, it's hard to see what I'm taking off is dirt of paint.

The steering wheel I tested the alcohol/aceton on, it does look way more matt now (for better of for worse) and the leather doesn't look damaged.

But I'm not going to take my chances on the M3.

Having said that, Simple Green shouldn't be used on leather either, according to Simple Green's own website:

https://simplegreen.com/products/all-purpose-cleaner/

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I guess it's not all black and white.
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Brett: What is your technique to get indentations in the leather and foam out??? Your seats look so crispy. :-)

In the past on my foam, I remove some of the leather and steam up the foam to expand it back to when it was new. I need to be more careful as I already ruined 1 of my e36 seats as I let the steamer get too close to the leather and it burned. Arg.


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I used Brett's method of diluted simple green with the magic eraser on my drivers seat on my 2014 F150 and it took them from a dirty shine to a nice factory clean matte finish. I used very light pressure and it didn't go over and over the same area. Worked like a charm.

gonna try it with my Vaders here this weekend. I guess i wonder one last thing, its it worth it to apply some sort of light conditioner on these leathers or is that just a myth and these modern leathers with a top coat simply do not accept conditioners as they just sit on the factory top coat?

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Took me some while as Simple Green is not readily sold anywhere, but I found a German supplier and just put in an order for a starter kit and refills.

Can't wait to give it a go.

Do wonder wonder what out leather would look unpainted. Is there something like a 'base' color.

Still with black leather, it's hard to see what I'm taking off is dirt of paint.

The steering wheel I tested the alcohol/aceton on, it does look way more matt now (for better of for worse) and the leather doesn't look damaged.

But I'm not going to take my chances on the M3.

Having said that, Simple Green shouldn't be used on leather either, according to Simple Green's own website:

https://simplegreen.com/products/all-purpose-cleaner/



I guess it's not all black and white.
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