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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Thu, Apr-09-2015, 05:53:36 PM   #21
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Default Re: Going back to stock: OEM Style 67 18's

Stock sizes on stock wheels, all day err day. Nice and "full" looking. Handles amazing, more grip than you'll ever need on the street. Works great for AutoX, too.

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Thank you again.

So you have 18's on 225/35 & 255/30 with how much lowering...? And, on the same token, if going the 45/40 route, then do not apply any lowering? Hold, but then, what use to I have to the PSS10...? ;-)



Thank you Bear,

Well you hit the nail pretty good... Good chunk of the reason why I want to go back to 18's is to come back to a more classic look which IMHO the E46 M3 is getting into that classic classification already.




Folks, all joke aside, if I go back to full stock 45/40, what use to I have to the PSS10's?

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You can still lower the car with stock tires/wheels. You'll want 15mm/12mm or 12mm/10mm spacers F/R to complete the look. I would drop it around 3/4-1". Top of tire just touching the wheel well level. IMO.
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You can still lower the car with stock tires/wheels. You'll want 15mm/12mm or 12mm/10mm spacers F/R to complete the look. I would drop it around 3/4-1". Top of tire just touching the wheel well level. IMO.
wheel spacers are bad

function > looks
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wheel spacers are bad



function > looks

What makes you say that?

Not sure you know the real purpose behind a spacer.


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wheel spacers are bad

function > looks
Why are spacers bad? Just the added weight? Genuinely curious.
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Stock sizes on stock wheels, all day err day. Nice and "full" looking. Handles amazing, more grip than you'll ever need on the street. Works great for AutoX, too.
IMO, I hated the stock staggered setup in autox, under-steered like mad mid corner then would break into snap over-steer. Was a bit better after I put 15mm spacers up front (looked a bit goofy) but still under-steer and ate tire shoulders. Moved to a 9.5" square setup and it was much better, car is completely neutral now.

I would probably still have my 67's if one of them didn't crack. But I agree, on the street the 18's were great, if you're hitting their limit on the streets you're probably driving recklessly.
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Spacers are a necessary evil, in a way, if you're going to run wheels with mild offsets like OE wheels.

No, you'd rather not have them, but it's not that bad. Clean your hubs' face and lips, get proper spacers, tighten the wheel properly (unloaded) and you'll be fine.
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Why are spacers bad? Just the added weight? Genuinely curious.
You are adding something in between the wheel mounting surface and the rotor / hub, you are adding stress and weakening the assembly, and more than likely putting additional wear on your suspension (then again I think a real low offset also puts additional wear)

I know tons of people run them without any issues on street and track, and have far more horsepower and push their cars way harder than I ever will, but it doesn't change the fact that its just not right

For most the pro's outweigh the con's, but my personal opinion / advice is to avoid them

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Default Re: Going back to stock: OEM Style 67 18's

However all I see are wide wheels and square setups.
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Default Re: Going back to stock: OEM Style 67 18's

square you will definitely need spacers, unless you are one of the few that run different offset front/rear and rotate tires and not wheels, which is what I would personally do

(but I am a poser and want a wider rear )
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