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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Sat, Dec-29-2018, 12:55:51 PM   #141
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Default Re: Comprehensive CSL Intake Thread

there are fewer and fewer days nice enough to get the car out, so i'm about ready to start the evolve install and need to gather final parts. now that the CSL air rail is available again, i presume that's the preferred path to running a MAP sensor? the other alternative i'm considering is the https://www.kasselperformance.com/pr...onversion-kit/ .

i know the kassel solution will be cheaper as with the CSL air rail i still have to buy the sensor and some wiring. but for the $100 price delta, it seems like going OE is the better route?
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there are fewer and fewer days nice enough to get the car out, so i'm about ready to start the evolve install and need to gather final parts. now that the CSL air rail is available again, i presume that's the preferred path to running a MAP sensor? the other alternative i'm considering is the https://www.kasselperformance.com/pr...onversion-kit/ .

i know the kassel solution will be cheaper as with the CSL air rail i still have to buy the sensor and some wiring. but for the $100 price delta, it seems like going OE is the better route?
Honestly, if you haven't made a decision yet I'd highly recommend the Kassel kit. It's totally plug and play, and Kassel offers great support. Probably can't go wrong either way, but I'm just speaking from personal experience here. Good luck with your install.
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Old Wed, Feb-20-2019, 12:57:01 AM   #143
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Does anyone know if a hardware conversion is necessary for an MSS54 DME to run a map-based setup for a CSL airbox without the flap? I've searched everywhere for the answer to this and haven't really been able to get a clear answer.
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Old Wed, Feb-20-2019, 01:35:02 AM   #144
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Does anyone know if a hardware conversion is necessary for an MSS54 DME to run a map-based setup for a CSL airbox without the flap? I've searched everywhere for the answer to this and haven't really been able to get a clear answer.
Yes, chips need to be added to a MSS54 to convert it to a HP. This will allow it to run the CSL map-based software and flap. I believe Terraphantm said in another thread that it was easier and possibly cheaper to get a HP than do the conversion.
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Definitely easier to do. And if you don't have soldering skills, programmers, etc, it's probably cheaper to just buy an HP rather than having someone convert it for you.
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Ok thanks for clearing that up. Maybe its worth adding to the first post on here that MSS54 DMEs must be converted to MSS54HP in order to run a map-based tune, even without the flap. And from there the MSS54HP must be converted to the MSS54HP CSL by adding the H-bridge in order to run the flap.
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Default Re: Comprehensive CSL Intake Thread

If you buy a MSS54HP rather than converting is there any chance that the VIN information or anything else would be wrong and potentially cause problems? Or can that be reassigned in the software?

Are there any other potential problems when swapping out a completely different DME?
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now that the CSL air rail is available again, i presume that's the preferred path to running a MAP sensor? the other alternative i'm considering is the https://www.kasselperformance.com/pr...onversion-kit/ .

i know the kassel solution will be cheaper as with the CSL air rail i still have to buy the sensor and some wiring. but for the $100 price delta, it seems like going OE is the better route?
I, too, am interested in the answer to this question.

KS Golfer - where did you get the indication that CSL rail was preferable?
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