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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Mon, Feb-05-2018, 06:03:48 PM   #21
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Who said anything good about the OE 18s?
Thread is about oem 18’s


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What is a set of OEM staggered 18" E46 M3 wheels worth in good condition?

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Both statements are true
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It’s funny bcs I’m seeing your sig with oem 18’s on right now. I actually think they look great on your car considering I’m not a fan of 18’s. Really compliments the lines of the body and grill/gills.
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For people who value such things? Lol this is what I mean

Let me go buy some $200 stock 18s and see what this magical wheel revolution does for me. Maybe I can start belittling 19s and start discrediting bmw engineers in the process
While you are at it, ask the BMW engineers why they thought it would be a great idea to transfer all the rear suspension loads through a sheet of steel that is as thick as a piece of paper.

Or why they saw value in having enough slop in the VANOS hub so that the tabs could get a running start.

Or how they could build the N63 so poorly(especially coming off the N62) that they need to replace every single one of them in a soft recall.

And so on and so forth. The notion that they are infallible is laughable at best, not that they had anything to do with the decision to offer 19s. That was done purely because some people think that they "look cool" and are willing to pay thousands of dollars for it.
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Its funny bcs Im seeing your sig with oem 18s on right now. I actually think they look great on your car considering Im not a fan of 18s. Really compliments the lines of the body and grill/gills.
Yeah, I used them for snows... where vehicle dynamics are thrown to the wind either way.
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For people who value such things? Lol this is what I mean

Let me go buy some $200 stock 18s and see what this magical wheel revolution does for me. Maybe I can start belittling 19s and start discrediting bmw engineers in the process
Do you think the reason they put 19's is because they had a benefit from an engineering or performance perspective?

Or because the general public thinks they look better? They didn't need them to fit brakes on this car.......
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Do you think the reason they put 19's is because they had a benefit from an engineering or performance perspective?

Or because the general public thinks they look better? They didn't need them to fit brakes on this car.......
My view is they used 19s because they provided better handling on the tires available then, while 18s were the comfort choice then, again because of the tires available. Larger tires were stiffer and would provide better performance, but would also wear suspension components "then". Keep in mind, that was over 15 years ago. Today's tire compounds are much better, so you can get more comfort with the 19s and more performance with the 18s now, than you could then. Not surprisingly, that means more cars come with larger wheels. You don't need as much rubber between wheel and road to produce an acceptable ride any more.

As for the cost to refurb, it's been described to me as a need to completely strip the wheel of all paint (including the shadowing between spokes), then polish the face, then repaint the shadowing after the face is polished. And I was quoted about $250 per wheel, which is twice the normal "sand and paint" refinishing for painted wheels. I decided to refinish mine since I know what condition they're in, rather than purchase used ones, which tend to be in worse shape anyway and would still require refinishing.

All, FWIW.

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My view is they used 19s because they provided better handling on the tires available then, while 18s were the comfort choice then, again because of the tires available. Larger tires were stiffer and would provide better performance, but would also wear suspension components "then". Keep in mind, that was over 15 years ago. Today's tire compounds are much better, so you can get more comfort with the 19s and more performance with the 18s now, than you could then. Not surprisingly, that means more cars come with larger wheels. You don't need as much rubber between wheel and road to produce an acceptable ride any more.
An interesting story you've crafted

But fictional.
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An interesting story you've crafted

But fictional.
Says you. Who I don't know. But I've heard that repeated from enough people who do know, to know it holds merit. Also from having owned multiple cars from multiple eras and paid attention to the steep change curve in rubber and materials compounds over the years, which is much steeper than car innovation. Today's all season tires are better than winter tires from a decade ago. It's just fact.

But believe what you want. It doesn't matter to me. I just want the OP to understand the answer to his question, which was about value (not engineering, performance, weight, preference, or any of that other shtuff people are talking about here.)

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Do you think the reason they put 19's is because they had a benefit from an engineering or performance perspective?

Or because the general public thinks they look better? They didn't need them to fit brakes on this car.......
Why ask such a basic question? Ive clearly brought those up in this very thread.

I’ve answered your questions, few posts up. As to why they put 19’s is the same reason you have blue seats in your black car (or violet? Dark blue? Whatever CB is) lol. Aesthetic reasons. It’s not all about performance gains, otherwise our cars wouldn’t be 3,450lbs. I’ve mentioned it many times, we have a sports luxury coupe based off a sedan. Damn Porsche guys call our cars boats.
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