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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Thu, Dec-07-2017, 03:27:01 PM   #11
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Default Re: AKG Shifter vs RTD Shifter

Is RTD a worthwhile upgrade from someone who has an Autosolutions 30%?
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Default Re: AKG Shifter vs RTD Shifter

Skip the RTD shifter and get the real deal CAE shifter.

My local raceshop who specializes in Spec-E46 Racing and E46 M3 Racing has a ton of track experience with both. Here is what he had to say about the RTD in comparison to the CAE shifter when asked about the difference between the two:
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Big difference. The RTD is thinner, not fully welded, it flexes. The tolerances are looser, leading to more flex. The hardware is cheaper, one e-clip just came off while driving. The main nut that holds it all together kept loosening up, had to tighten it every session. Etc etc etc.
I've seen the both up close and personal, they are NOT the same and the quality is NOT the same at all. Apparently RTD had to revise their latest variation of shifters due to a law-suit from CAE (from what I am told). I'm not sure if they are still making the lockout version or not, or if they had to cease and desist (I see them still listed for sale). Buying an RTD shifter without the adjustable gear set point pin stops or without the gear lock-out ability pretty much deletes the point of the shifter. Having messed around with both shifters, side by side, in a Spec-E46 race car, other then them looking nearly identical, I wasn't impressed with the RTD shifter.

The owner of the company even reached out to me after reading a brief review I gave from both myself and the race-shop, and he told both of us that he would be sending us out their 'latest' product to test and review free of charge due to our negative feedback/experience. a couple months later and the owner won't even reply to my messages. Don't buy a cheap knock-off. Get the real thing (CAE) or get a different shifter. They might look the same -- but after seeing multiple, they are not. Just read the description alone, on both of their websites, RTD even plagiarized that nearly word-for-word from CAE. Don't give waste your money on a subpar part. Don't encourage business practices like this. Buy a CAE if that's the style shifter you want. It's fantastic. It's pricey for a reason but you get what you pay for.
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Old Thu, Dec-07-2017, 04:18:22 PM   #13
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Yeah... I need to get me a CAE
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Old Thu, Dec-07-2017, 04:23:16 PM   #14
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The non-lockout version I'm very pleased with. No issues with the main nut holding the spring, the centering allen bolt which adjusts the 3-4 gate, and it just needed some blue loctite on the top allen bolt which holds the delrin shift knob in place.

The bottom plate had a slightly bent corner, but the rest of the welds looked great. I haven't noticed any flex in the shifter assembly. Again this is all on a track car.
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RTD will have a Christmas sale soon, fwiw.
Any solid date on this? Ive been asking them for almost a month and nothings come out yet.
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The non-lockout version I'm very pleased with. No issues with the main nut holding the spring, the centering allen bolt which adjusts the 3-4 gate, and it just needed some blue loctite on the top allen bolt which holds the delrin shift knob in place.

The bottom plate had a slightly bent corner, but the rest of the welds looked great. I haven't noticed any flex in the shifter assembly. Again this is all on a track car.
For what its worth, the cars that I have seen both the CAE and RTD shifters on (comparing back to back) were ALL (many multiple) competitive track only spec race cars.
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For what its worth, the cars that I have seen both the CAE and RTD shifters on (comparing back to back) were ALL (many multiple) competitive track only spec race cars.
Yep, just throwing out my experience with the RTD. FWIW I got it summer '17 so they might have changed the design since he tested them.
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Any solid date on this? Ive been asking them for almost a month and nothings come out yet.
Nope. There will be hell toupée if it doesn't happen.
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AKG would easily get my vote
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I have a late 2016 (received January of 2017) RTD shifter, race height non-lockout on my track car and I love it. There is a little bit of play in the tolerances but for half the price of the CAE I'm not complaining. I've never shifted an AKG or CAE to know any different.
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