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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
Total Produced: 71,212 - Years Produced: 1992 to 1999


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Old Thu, Sep-12-2019, 08:31:36 AM   #21
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As a professional auto upholsterer and an E36 enthusiast here is my opinion.
To achieve factory finish on the door panels you need to completely strip the existing vinyl, sand and then apply a special kind of heat formable vinyl with a large enough vacuum former. Vinyl used from the factory is thicker and without cotton or any sort of backing.
Trying to re- glue the peeling vinyl is tedious and will most likely fail, believe me I have tried, I did manage to glue it down but it was not perfect.
Iīve yet come across heat formable vinyl that matches the original grain wise.
So we are left with two options, either have a professional cover the panels in leather( like the OEM extended leather option ) , or buy new panels.
Inserts on the other hand are relatively easy to do, (except convertible later years where they molded the leather to the foam).
M-cross or any type of hand stitching on the inserts look out of place and should never be performed on these panels, especially in incorrect colors.


TL;DR Buy new panels.
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As a professional auto upholsterer and an E36 enthusiast here is my opinion.
To achieve factory finish on the door panels you need to completely strip the existing vinyl, sand and then apply a special kind of heat formable vinyl with a large enough vacuum former. Vinyl used from the factory is thicker and without cotton or any sort of backing.
Trying to re- glue the peeling vinyl is tedious and will most likely fail, believe me I have tried, I did manage to glue it down but it was not perfect.
Iīve yet come across heat formable vinyl that matches the original grain wise.
So we are left with two options, either have a professional cover the panels in leather( like the OEM extended leather option ) , or buy new panels.
Inserts on the other hand are relatively easy to do, (except convertible later years where they molded the leather to the foam).
M-cross or any type of hand stitching on the inserts look out of place and should never be performed on these panels, especially in incorrect colors.


TL;DR Buy new panels.
This guy knows best
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Old Thu, Sep-12-2019, 10:36:48 PM   #23
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As for the delaminating vinyl in the pockets I spent a fair bit of time looking into this with various upholsterers and one idea in particular seemed like a viable alternative to new cards. The essential bit is to release any tension from the vinyl where it has already shrunk so it doesn’t continue to pull up adjacent vinyl. Once it’s gone past the edges of the pockets you’re screwed. The vinyl delaminates not because the glue is bad but because the vinyl shrinks in the heat. Brand new doorcards will eventually die also if exposed to too much heat so are not a permanent solution for those that can’t avoid such heat.

Anyway, the idea was to carefully cut out the vinyl around the edge of the pockets where there’s a natural recess or relief and then glue in a black (Alcantara/Amaretto if desired) material. Done properly and with black on black and the position of the pockets you’d not be able to see the seams.
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As for the delaminating vinyl in the pockets I spent a fair bit of time looking into this with various upholsterers and one idea in particular seemed like a viable alternative to new cards. The essential bit is to release any tension from the vinyl where it has already shrunk so it doesnít continue to pull up adjacent vinyl. Once itís gone past the edges of the pockets youíre screwed. The vinyl delaminates not because the glue is bad but because the vinyl shrinks in the heat. Brand new doorcards will eventually die also if exposed to too much heat so are not a permanent solution for those that canít avoid such heat.

Anyway, the idea was to carefully cut out the vinyl around the edge of the pockets where thereís a natural recess or relief and then glue in a black (Alcantara/Amaretto if desired) material. Done properly and with black on black and the position of the pockets youíd not be able to see the seams.


I think Iím going to do this, cheap solution because TX will inevitably kill them anyways. Will replace once I leave Hell


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Buying new. Thanks.
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