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Old Mon, Oct-27-2014, 09:22:59 PM   #1
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Default NCS Expert Alarm Retrofit--Coding Ninjas Get In Here!

Straight to the point:
Does someone have a full list of fields and values for coding the alarm in NCS Expert?

Full story:
I've scoured the internet but can't find a concise list. I put together my own list and got pretty close, but there are some kinks.

For reference, here's my list:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=14H...Sn8&authuser=0

I originally took my car to my local dealer after installing my alarm, it took 4 visits to get everything working...kind of. The only thing that didn't work was that if the door was open and you locked/armed the car, it would beep, then if you closed the door it would beep again (and flash).

At one point it worked, but every time I went back to get them to fix one thing (activate the tilt sensor for example) something else ended up not working. This is why I finally was like, "good enough."

The last time I went, they brought me in the garage and showed me their system and asked for my input. They told me some settings conflict with each other. I believe convertible settings conflict, but I don't believe they're active (part of my ask is for the purpose of verifying that, actually).

Random techs at the dealership also confirmed that some of the beep/flash settings have conflict, but it was like, "oh yeah I think so and such." So take it with a grain of salt.

So last night we set the hood/trunk close flash/beep to activ. Now, my my car will beep and then beep again when you close a door/trunk. But it will only beep/flash sometimes when locking, and 100% of the time when unlocking.

I'm thinking maybe I need to disable the beep/flash for the non hood/trunk options? Maybe those are built into the hood/trunk option and having it set in both places is making things crazy? Thoughts?

I went through a couple of "dumps" and pulled out anything that looks like alarm related (in no order, bold are the ones I have set):

ALARM_AKUSTISCH : alarm sound choices
ALARM_AKUSTISCH_LANG : long alarm sound
ALARMSCHALTER_SI_FZG : alarm switch ?
ALARMSCHALTER_TAXI :
ALARM_OPT_ABBLENDLICHT : alarm pulses low beam when tripped
ALARM_OPT_WARNBLINKER : alarm pulses emergency flashers when tripped
ALARM_OPT_FERNLICHT :alarm pulses high beam when tripped

DWAH_PIN_C17 : alarm system horn
DWA_BLK_ABSCHALTEN : power to windows shutdown with alarm
DWA : anti-theft alarm system
DWA_HANDSCHUHFACHKONTAKT :Alarm glove compartment switch.
DWA_HECKKLAPPENKONTAKT :Alarm trunk switch.
DWA_HECKSCHEIBENKONTAKT :Alarm rear window switch
DWA_NOTENTSCHAERFEN :alarm will not de-activate
DWA-QUITTIERUNG : anti theft system acknowledgement
NEIGUGSGEBER : tilt sensor for alarm
PANIC_CLOSE :holding the close on remote activates alarm
PANIC_FREIGABE_CAS :
PANIC_FREIGABE_KL15 :
PANIK_MODUS :Panic mode
QUIT_AKUST_DAUER_10/20/40_MS: How long the alarm beeps
QUIT_AKUST_ENTSCH : alarm beep on unlock (two beeps)
QUIT_AKUST_SCHAERF : alarm beep on lock (one beep)
QUIT_AKUST_SCHAERF_KLAPPE :acoustic arming doors closed

QUITT_BLK_SICHERN;Vis.lock.,without anti-theft alarm syst.
QUITT_BLK_ENTSICHERN;Vis.unlock.,without anti-theft alarm syst.
QUITIMP_SICHERN/ENTSICHER;Vis.lock.,without anti-theft alarm syst.
QUIT_OPT_ENTSCH : visually acknowledge remote un-locking (two flashes)
QUIT_OPT_SCHAERF : visually acknowledge remote locking (one flash)
QUIT_OPT_SCHAERF_KLAPPE :visual arming doors closed
MIT_OPT_ALARM : clown nose?
SCHAERFEN/ENTSCHAERFEN : disable alarm method
FUNK_INNENRAUMSCHUTZ : Interior sensor


I guess I need to do a dump of my own GM5 and then look for what might be alarm, but really hoping others have been down this road before.

Thanks in advance (hopefully at least 1 person reads this and replies)!
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Random techs at the dealership also confirmed that some of the beep/flash settings have conflict, but it was like, "oh yeah I think so and such." So take it with a grain of salt.
Yeah dealers usually know zero about hand coding detailed options like this... they will often poo-poo the whole thing as 'internet hackery BS'.
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Old Tue, Oct-28-2014, 02:50:19 PM   #3
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Default Re: NCS Expert Alarm Retrofit--Coding Ninjas Get In Here!

So far I've had better luck with internet hackery than letting them do it the "legit" way.
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Preaching to the choir man. I self coded my whole 540iT manual conversion and it is like a factory built car now. Most dealers would say "cannot be done, there's no approved retrofit procedure in ISTA".
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Easiest way to add the alarm is to add the option code to your VO and recode
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IMO it's best practice to code retrofits via VO and then make modifications as necessary. The behavior he was looking for sounds like stock to me anyway
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Agreed. I just posted in the CVM thread that i couldnt get hand coding to work for the vert hardtop for instance because obv i was missing a dependency some place. Retrofit w progman worked perfectly. In hindsight tweaking the VO and auto recoding prob would have worked fine too i bet.
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So I got this sorted, the conflict was that I had these six settings at "aktiv" and after a lot of trial and error (and common sense) I came up with the below:

Unlock Beep GM5 QUIT_AKUST_ENTSCH aktiv
Lock Beep GM5 QUIT_AKUST_SCHAERF nicht_aktiv
Trunk/Hood Closed Beep* GM5 QUIT_AKUST_SCHAERF_KLAPPE aktiv

Unlock Flash GM5 QUIT_OPT_ENTSCH aktiv
Lock Flash GM5 QUIT_OPT_SCHAERF nicht_aktiv
Trunk/Hood Closed Flash* GM5 QUIT_OPT_SCHAERF_KLAPPE aktiv
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Default Re: NCS Expert Alarm Retrofit--Coding Ninjas Get In Here!

Subscirbed to this thread for when i eventually install my alarm...btw do u still have to go to the dealer or can everything be done vis ncs expert? Also what is VO when terrapathm mentioned?
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You can do everything via NCS Expert. VO is vehicle order, you can add the option to the VO and then you will have all of the default settings like they were building your car at the factory.
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