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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Wed, Oct-31-2018, 02:34:04 AM   #281
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Awesome work, it looks so clean, congratulations
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Looks amazing! The SMG community owes you guys a big debt, thanks fellas.
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Old Wed, Oct-31-2018, 05:35:12 AM   #283
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Price please
Do you have pics of it installed with a catch can also?
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Old Wed, Oct-31-2018, 05:42:50 AM   #284
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We do not have a pic with a catch can.
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Old Wed, Oct-31-2018, 05:53:39 AM   #285
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We do not have a pic with a catch can.


Do you or Leighton have a picture with the pump installed and relocated?
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EXTERIORJCSL 1X1 DIFFUSER | VÖRSTEINER CSL BUMPER
PREVENTATIVE ▌ VANOS BEISAN LOCKDOWN: UPPER GUIDE CHAIN | SOLENOID COIL PACK | OIL PUMP DISK
EXHAUSTSUPERSPRINT EXHAUST ~ OVERSIZED STEPPED V1 HEADERS | RACE CATTED SEC 1 | RESONATED X-PIPE SEC 2 | SPORT (GEN 2) SEC 3
BRAKES ▌ STOCK CSL/ZCP ROTORS | PORSCHE 996 BREMBO CALIPERS | SS LINES
WHEELS ▌ STOCK ZCP BBS 19" | 75MM ECS/TMS F&R WHEEL STUD CONVERSION
SUSPENSIONTURNER MOTORSPORT 30MM FRONT SWAY BAR | KW V2 COILOVERS | GROUND CONTROL CAMBER PLATES | SDW RTABS
ENGINE ▌ TUNED BY PAUL-CLAUDE | KARBONIUS CSL AIRBOX (ALPHA N), OEM SNORKEL (FLAP DELETE), OIL CATCH CAN
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Yea we should have a pic somewhere. I'll have him post them.

I texted him a few pics. He should upload them shortly. They were taken for reference purposes only, so the quality is not the best
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Yea we should have a pic somewhere. I'll have him post one


Cheers, I think it’ll answer many people’s questions giving us a visual of wether we have room for a fan controller, catch can...etc
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EXHAUSTSUPERSPRINT EXHAUST ~ OVERSIZED STEPPED V1 HEADERS | RACE CATTED SEC 1 | RESONATED X-PIPE SEC 2 | SPORT (GEN 2) SEC 3
BRAKES ▌ STOCK CSL/ZCP ROTORS | PORSCHE 996 BREMBO CALIPERS | SS LINES
WHEELS ▌ STOCK ZCP BBS 19" | 75MM ECS/TMS F&R WHEEL STUD CONVERSION
SUSPENSIONTURNER MOTORSPORT 30MM FRONT SWAY BAR | KW V2 COILOVERS | GROUND CONTROL CAMBER PLATES | SDW RTABS
ENGINE ▌ TUNED BY PAUL-CLAUDE | KARBONIUS CSL AIRBOX (ALPHA N), OEM SNORKEL (FLAP DELETE), OIL CATCH CAN
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There is room... just dont know if there is enough room with the original catch can location. If I post a picture asking for certain measurements, could you guys who have the catch can provide them for me? That way I can try and make it all fit.
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Old Wed, Oct-31-2018, 06:31:44 AM   #289
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I've long thought that a small intercooler (like the oil coolers for a S/C) would be a great option to keep the SMG further cooled...BUT as of now, I have to agree with Ejaz (0-60 Motorsports). I don't think there is any reason to over complicate this system. The beauty of the SMG system is its mechanically very simple. If Ejaz has had zero heat issues post-relocation, in the hot Middle-East climate, then I can't imagine additional cooling would be necessary. IF guy's are still having problems with their SMG after relocating, it would likely be down to 3 things, a worn electric motor, an accumulator that no longer is holding pressure, or a sensor is faulty. Our mounting bracket makes servicing all of these components super simple. The electric motor, the temperature sensor, and all the hydraulic sensors are easily accessible from the top. It's as simple as removing a few screws and replacing. Swapping any of those should be doable in minutes. If the accumulator is no longer holding pressure, it's as simple as depressurizing the accumulator (pulling the salmon relay and then shifting until pressure falls), then un mounting the SMG pump from the bracket (done in a minutes time), lifting it off and unscrewing the accumulator. It's as service friendly as it gets. When the hood is closed, the drug bin is completely sealed off from the engine bay, so heat should no longer be an issue....at least that has been the trend from everyone that has relocated their pumps that I am aware of; Ejaz being one of the guys that really subjects his to the extreme end of the temperature spectrum.

Update on progress:
We have decided to stick with the stand-alone OE CSL Fluid Reservoir to keep things as "factory" plug-and-play as possible rather than fabricating or sourcing a different reservoir. We should be able to offer these at a lower price than any other retailer/vender. We have 7 on order that are being sent to us and once received the fluid reservoir mounting bracket will be complete, which is the last piece of the puzzle. Due to the dynamic shape and dimensions of the CSL fluid reservoir, we need one on hand to properly make this bracket so we are waiting for our shipment to arrive, hopefully later this week from across the Atlantic.

I haven't had the chance to "professionally" photograph everything just quite yet, but I figure It would be a good time to post some pictures of all the different components along with a brief description.


SMG Mounting bracket: Version 1: For those that do NOT have the ABS unit in the drug bin.
*Patent Pending.
- The actual SMG surround is one solid piece, professionally bent to form without any welds.
- The 3 arm brackets that come off the portion that surrounds the SMG pump are fully TIG welded.
- Precision cut holes allow for some degrees of adjustability when mounting this.
- Extremely stiff and rigid design. Once mounted, your very expensive pump will not be wobbling or bouncing around.
- Can be installed in under a minute.
- Includes all the bolts and fasteners to install the mounting bracket and to mount the SMG pump.
- Orientation allows for the SMG electric motor, temperature sensor, and hydraulic sensors to easily be replaced if needing service without removing the SMG pump. All are fully accessible from the top and can be replaced in minutes.
- Comes powder-coated black with high heat resistant black powder coating. (Red powder coating in the images are for demonstration purposes only, although if you wanted it red, we can do that too). Custom color would be an additional cost.
- Plenty of room to spare for a catch-can, ect.
- Designed, made, and assembled in the USA.

We will be working on a Version 2, made for those that DO have the ABS unit in the drug-bin, but at this time that design is still in the works and not yet being offered.

SMG Bracket (patent pending) with standard silver with transparent coated hydraulic lines:
*Red Powder-Coating is for demonstrations purposes only. Production model comes powder-coated in black high-heat resistant powder coating.




Hydraulic lines:
- We have these custom made for this application.
- Each line is fully coated for added abrasion and corrosion resistance.
- Made in the USA.
- Standard silver hydraulic lines (transparent coated):

- We will be offering a few custom colored hydraulic line options:


Wiring Harness:
- OE BMW plugs are used on both ends.
- Wiring is professionally done with very high-heat resistant coated wires.
- Sheathed in very high heat woven heat shield.
- Plug and play, like the OE harness. Zero cutting, soldering, or splicing.
- Assembled in the USA.







OE CSL SMG Fluid Reservoir with reservoir mounting bracket:



Hope you guys like what you see. A LOT of time and money has gone into being able to offer this to the community.
Thanks for putting this post together and thanks to idntknow2005. Bracket Looks great and will solve a lot of pump issues (unless the pump itself has a malfunctioning part).
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Awesome job Leighton and IDK2005
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