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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Tue, Nov-28-2017, 06:02:14 PM   #1
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Default Nice turbo M3

Not affiliated, but came across this little gem. Might even belong to a Forum member here? Too bad it won't pass smog.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto...364076122.html
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Looks like a nice car, with very low mileage at 43k, and appears that be a decent turbo conversion. Would be hard to duplicate for $25k given the 43k mile M3 starting point.
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That's been for sale on here and bfc.
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That's been for sale on here and bfc.
Indeed. I'm not too sure what to make of a "showcar" build. They never really seem to be dialed in, just stuff thrown at it.
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That's been for sale on here and bfc.
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Indeed. I'm not too sure what to make of a "showcar" build. They never really seem to be dialed in, just stuff thrown at it.


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Minor details that can be solved with time/research or can be left alone w/ out affecting functionality or reliability:
-When changed to custom steering wheel, horn is inconsistent and airbag light was activated
-Coolant sensor may not be compatible w/ Mishi expansion tank, or may just need replacement. Reads low coolant on OBC but level is OK
-ABS/ASC light on due to ASC disconnect (ABS still functional)
-ZKW projectors and license plate LED lights cause OBC to read errors. No issues other than OBC notification
-Rear tires rub after upgrading to Toyo R888
-Spoiler paint quality is sub-par due to difficulties painting carbon fiber
-Driver side door actuator sticks but works OK w/ key. No FOB included
-Headlights need leveling. Purchased new but have not gotten around to leveling at night.
-Windshield washer fluid reservoir eliminated, turbo kit did not allow to be relocated
-Battery needs tie down
Tires don't match, ill-fitting aftermarket lights, and won't pass smog.

Yup, it's a gem.
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Old Wed, Nov-29-2017, 01:36:32 PM   #6
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I'm not too sure what to make of a "showcar" build.
Won't pass smog, not street legal?
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CA has tough smog laws. You can't just buy an 02 and SAP sim. Even if you kept cats and the SAP and could pass a sniffer test, you would still need an exemption and they are a pain to get. The only aftermarket forced induction kits for BMWs that got CARB exemptions were Dinan superchargers for the E36 and E46 M3s and the early MechTech turbo kit for the E36. No other makers have gotten them for BMWs -- not ESS or AA or VFE or HPF or TRM or Eurosport or Technica or Technique Tuning or Gintani.

There are tricks people in CA do, like registering the car in a place that does not require as stringent testing (and I think some parts of CA might qualify), and probably some other illegal things.

To me, the list of issues is a pretty minor one and I think its great the seller is being upfront about the details. If those things are a big deal to you, then you should not be owning a 20 year old car in the first place, let alone a modified one.

I would not pay $25k for an E36, but for someone who would, I think the car is worth a look. A nicely done turbo system is incredible on one of these cars.
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CA has tough smog laws. You can't just buy an 02 and SAP sim. Even if you kept cats and the SAP and could pass a sniffer test, you would still need an exemption and they are a pain to get. The only aftermarket forced induction kits for BMWs that got CARB exemptions were Dinan superchargers for the E36 and E46 M3s and the early MechTech turbo kit for the E36. No other makers have gotten them for BMWs -- not ESS or AA or VFE or HPF or TRM or Eurosport or Technica or Technique Tuning or Gintani.

There are tricks people in CA do, like registering the car in a place that does not require as stringent testing (and I think some parts of CA might qualify), and probably some other illegal things.

To me, the list of issues is a pretty minor one and I think its great the seller is being upfront about the details. If those things are a big deal to you, then you should not be owning a 20 year old car in the first place, let alone a modified one.

I would not pay $25k for an E36, but for someone who would, I think the car is worth a look. A nicely done turbo system is incredible on one of these cars.
Agreed. Looks like a well put together build with a good list of parts. Yes different tires front and rear probably because of the severe traction issues it has. Won't pass smog because California sucks, the rest of the country doesn't have that issue. As for the small nit picky things, they can be fixed easily.

That being said, I wouldn't pay 25k. That's what i would consider retail for it. 20k would be a more realistic price.
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Very nice car!

Given what the owner's done to the car he's probably still losing money even if it sells for $25k.

I agree with Braymond to the extent that the more stuff you throw at an E36 the harder it is to dial in.

That said, it's not impossible to have a reliable car if you have the time and patience to make things right.

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