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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
Total Produced: 71,212 - Years Produced: 1992 to 1999


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Old Mon, Nov-20-2017, 05:17:52 PM   #11
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Which underguard are you talking about? If anything, the MM underpanel reduces air turbulence in this area and I like the radiator baffle a lot better than the stock one. Yeah, I wouldn't go somfar as to call it garbage. I think it also depends on the kind of roads and conditions you're driving in. For example, I autocross my car. There's no way the stock under panels would survive being hit by cones the way this under panel does.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=51_2047

It is number 9 on the diagram.

Going back to the undertray near radiator, it lifts upwards towards the engine, which does direct some of its air flow to the transmission. (and I would assume it creates laminar flow rather than a turbulent flow due to its design)

Since MM underpanel does further close the gap in a flat fashion, I suspect there will be little to no cooling air for the transmission.

Stronger bottom also means when it is hit hard, undertray transfers more force to the bumper whereas broken plastic bits may cushion it from the impact.

Nonetheless, I would say that this undertray is useful in certain applications like dirt rally or gymkhana. However, I don’t see how it would be more beneficial in street or track applications.


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http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=51_2047

It is number 9 on the diagram.

Going back to the undertray near radiator, it lifts upwards towards the engine, which does direct some of its air flow to the transmission. (and I would assume it creates laminar flow rather than a turbulent flow due to its design)

Since MM underpanel does further close the gap in a flat fashion, I suspect there will be little to no cooling air for the transmission.

Stronger bottom also means when it is hit hard, undertray transfers more force to the bumper whereas broken plastic bits may cushion it from the impact.

Nonetheless, I would say that this undertray is useful in certain applications like dirt rally or gymkhana. However, I don’t see how it would be more beneficial in street or track applications.


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I don't think I've ever seen that part here in the states. I can't even pull it up on ECS or FCP. I can't bring up case studies on its affect on air flow on the transmission but I can say that there have been hundreds if not thousands of these panels installed with no ill side effects.

As for my application (autocross), I'd much rather have a damaged bumper than lost broken plastic pieces on the road making for a potentially dangerous environment for the people behind me.
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Never seen #9 on any car around here. The "pork chops" are notorious for tearing at the mounting positions and ripping out at speed.

I've had the MM panel on my car for years now. Never had a structural issue with it. It really does stabilize the lower bumper quite well.

Two complaints: (i) the hardware it comes with isn't the best - you'd be wise to source some stainless fittings; and (ii) the panel's outside radius doesn't fit flush inside the OEM bumper lip at the corners - you can either live with it, or reshape the panel (only a few millimeters on each side require work).

I think Braymond had a terrific write-up on these issues while installing a splitter.
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It looks like this.

Quite interesting that US cars never came with this underguard. Notice how it is shaped to embrace front x brace fitted in convertibles ans LTW cars.

Given the identical subframe shape and transmission of 94 M3s and assured compatibility for 3.2 cars (use the pre 95 part number to search the item) this could be a potential retrofit find for you guys.


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Yes, EU spec tray.

The ‘garbage’ piece that covers half the car.

There’s a smaller piece that connects to it, that opens up for oil
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The eu spec tray wasnt included with ours because it would have blocked airflow to our oil pan. The us oil pan had a fin design

Also if anyone wondered why the xbrace used only 4 bolts on the front instead of 6, the other 2 was to hold the panel in place

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Are the oil pans different for the euro version?

Interesting about the bolts. I have 4 in mine but that's because I added an X Brace that was never there to begin with. I assumed it needed 4 up front.
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Well, look at that. Very cool.
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Well, look at that. Very cool.
Thought you knew. That’s for the dual pickup.

It has the main sump on the back, flat middle, smaller sump up front.
No oil splash guard as it’s not needed. And provision for a second screenfilter and oil level/temp sensor.

Like most, the S50B32 is totally different.
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