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Old Thu, Sep-21-2017, 01:24:36 PM   #141
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I have 3000 miles on mine, no noise.

Did you grease them?
What brand of grease are you using?
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Old Thu, Sep-21-2017, 02:34:41 PM   #142
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What brand of grease are you using?
For chassis bits, I'm using Schaeffer 238.

http://www.schaefferoil.com/documents/123-238-td.pdf

It is very much not an "all season tire" grease, and should not be used in some other circumstances-- e.g. bearings. But, after a fair bit of research, I feel confident it's an excellent chassis joint grease.
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Old Fri, Oct-20-2017, 01:07:31 AM   #143
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Emailed Turner about this but didn't hear back. As I and some others have mentioned, my reinforcement plate wouldn't line up once I installed these FCABS. I had to pull them out of the lollipop and push them back into the OEM ones after removing my rubber bushings from them. Overall it was a PITA and I shouldn't have had to do it, but now that its done everything lines up perfectly like stock.

Also, I used a puller to get the FCAB off and the actual poly piece stayed on the control arm, leaving the monoball free. The other one I took off came off as one piece. All is fine now, but I'll report have if there is any noise. So far I'm really liking how these feel.
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Old Mon, Nov-13-2017, 07:15:08 PM   #144
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Wanted to share the trouble I've had with these; really unfortunate as I love the Turner RTABs, very nice pieces and had no issues with those. These FCABs have been quite the headache though.

I ordered these a couple weeks ago, the kit with the brackets + hardware, but unfortunately Turner sent the wrong kit (sent just the bushings). Thankfully they were helpful about it and overnighted the correct kit.

I managed to find a mini grease gun, 3oz moly grease, and the Lincoln 5803 needle grease fitting, all from my local O'Reilly Auto Parts, so that was easy. Greasing them is a bit weird, I found that the grease comes out of the part of the bearing seal closest to the fitting, and still felt dry as if the bushings still weren't fully greased. I worked them back and forth and around a bit and regreased a couple times and it was a little better. I figure the grease will spread around internally more with time as the car is driven.

I get my old ones removed (delrin Treehouse units) and go to fit the passenger side, only to realise Turner sent me two left sides! I suppose I should have checked this first, but there were no instructions, and I only confirmed it by the small part number printed on the brackets, with a small L at the end... There was also some junk inside the threads that had to be cleaned out with a tap and an air chuck. The casting on the brackets they provide is really, really low quality. As stated by others, if I could do it again, I'd install these into OEM lollipops.

Since I was under there already, I figured I'd try to fit the driver (left) side just to see how it goes, after reading some of the other posts on here. Not only were the countersinks in the brackets not the correct shape, I wasn't able to get them to line up exactly with the holes in the chassis. It looks like it would be possible to get them in with some massaging (i.e. banging) and some slight drill work on the countersinks, again as previously stated by others here.

At this point I gave up and put my old Treehouse units back on, which slide on and line up perfect. I was worried that the Delrin was worn after 15k miles and 5 track days but they looked as good as new. I still would like to run the Turner mono-ball units, but after I get them exchanged (again) for the correct pieces, I might hold off a bit until next time I'm ready to do an alignment.

Not really trying to sway people away from these, but unlike most other kits similar to this, be prepared for some work. You may get lucky with yours, but it doesn't hurt to be prepared. Double check the parts and part numbers, get a grease gun sorted out ahead of time, and be ready to fiddle around with them for a while to get them installed.
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FYI I have a grease gun with grease. If anyone in the LA area needs to borrow it, PM me.
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Wanted to share the trouble I've had with these; really unfortunate as I love the Turner RTABs, very nice pieces and had no issues with those. These FCABs have been quite the headache though.

I ordered these a couple weeks ago, the kit with the brackets + hardware, but unfortunately Turner sent the wrong kit (sent just the bushings). Thankfully they were helpful about it and overnighted the correct kit.

I managed to find a mini grease gun, 3oz moly grease, and the Lincoln 5803 needle grease fitting, all from my local O'Reilly Auto Parts, so that was easy. Greasing them is a bit weird, I found that the grease comes out of the part of the bearing seal closest to the fitting, and still felt dry as if the bushings still weren't fully greased. I worked them back and forth and around a bit and regreased a couple times and it was a little better. I figure the grease will spread around internally more with time as the car is driven.

I get my old ones removed (delrin Treehouse units) and go to fit the passenger side, only to realise Turner sent me two left sides! I suppose I should have checked this first, but there were no instructions, and I only confirmed it by the small part number printed on the brackets, with a small L at the end... There was also some junk inside the threads that had to be cleaned out with a tap and an air chuck. The casting on the brackets they provide is really, really low quality. As stated by others, if I could do it again, I'd install these into OEM lollipops.

Since I was under there already, I figured I'd try to fit the driver (left) side just to see how it goes, after reading some of the other posts on here. Not only were the countersinks in the brackets not the correct shape, I wasn't able to get them to line up exactly with the holes in the chassis. It looks like it would be possible to get them in with some massaging (i.e. banging) and some slight drill work on the countersinks, again as previously stated by others here.

At this point I gave up and put my old Treehouse units back on, which slide on and line up perfect. I was worried that the Delrin was worn after 15k miles and 5 track days but they looked as good as new. I still would like to run the Turner mono-ball units, but after I get them exchanged (again) for the correct pieces, I might hold off a bit until next time I'm ready to do an alignment.

Not really trying to sway people away from these, but unlike most other kits similar to this, be prepared for some work. You may get lucky with yours, but it doesn't hurt to be prepared. Double check the parts and part numbers, get a grease gun sorted out ahead of time, and be ready to fiddle around with them for a while to get them installed.

That’s surprising. Sounds like UUC may have bought out Turner. Lol


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That’s surprising. Sounds like UUC may have bought out Turner. Lol


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Wanted to share the trouble I've had with these; really unfortunate as I love the Turner RTABs, very nice pieces and had no issues with those. These FCABs have been quite the headache though.

I ordered these a couple weeks ago, the kit with the brackets + hardware, but unfortunately Turner sent the wrong kit (sent just the bushings). Thankfully they were helpful about it and overnighted the correct kit.

I managed to find a mini grease gun, 3oz moly grease, and the Lincoln 5803 needle grease fitting, all from my local O'Reilly Auto Parts, so that was easy. Greasing them is a bit weird, I found that the grease comes out of the part of the bearing seal closest to the fitting, and still felt dry as if the bushings still weren't fully greased. I worked them back and forth and around a bit and regreased a couple times and it was a little better. I figure the grease will spread around internally more with time as the car is driven.

I get my old ones removed (delrin Treehouse units) and go to fit the passenger side, only to realise Turner sent me two left sides! I suppose I should have checked this first, but there were no instructions, and I only confirmed it by the small part number printed on the brackets, with a small L at the end... There was also some junk inside the threads that had to be cleaned out with a tap and an air chuck. The casting on the brackets they provide is really, really low quality. As stated by others, if I could do it again, I'd install these into OEM lollipops.

Since I was under there already, I figured I'd try to fit the driver (left) side just to see how it goes, after reading some of the other posts on here. Not only were the countersinks in the brackets not the correct shape, I wasn't able to get them to line up exactly with the holes in the chassis. It looks like it would be possible to get them in with some massaging (i.e. banging) and some slight drill work on the countersinks, again as previously stated by others here.

At this point I gave up and put my old Treehouse units back on, which slide on and line up perfect. I was worried that the Delrin was worn after 15k miles and 5 track days but they looked as good as new. I still would like to run the Turner mono-ball units, but after I get them exchanged (again) for the correct pieces, I might hold off a bit until next time I'm ready to do an alignment.

Not really trying to sway people away from these, but unlike most other kits similar to this, be prepared for some work. You may get lucky with yours, but it doesn't hurt to be prepared. Double check the parts and part numbers, get a grease gun sorted out ahead of time, and be ready to fiddle around with them for a while to get them installed.
I was under the impression there was no need to get an alignment after installing these...
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I was under the same impression. For rtab's yes alignment but for fcab's I thought not necessary?

I'm holding off to see how the Fall Line fcab's are but have been waiting for a while 😢
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I was under the same impression. For rtab's yes alignment but for fcab's I thought not necessary?

I'm holding off to see how the Fall Line fcab's are but have been waiting for a while 😢
Always a good idea. The FCAB locates the lower arm which has a direct impact on alignment, obviously. If you have a worn FCAB where the arm is not centred in the lollipop and then install a new FCAB, the alignment will be affected. In my case going from a solid, not worn out Delrin to a monoball FCAB, the alignment really shouldn’t change, but being that I change and realign my car every few months anyway, why not.
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