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Old Mon, Jul-28-2014, 10:10:24 PM   #1
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Default "Hella Flush" banned in Quebec.

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Hellaflush

The hellaflush is an aesthetic practice carried out at the expense of handling and maneuverability of a vehicle. This is a method which comprises:

the lower suspension of a vehicle;
install oversized wheels and remote ( offset higher than the original rims);
mount tires too narrow for the rim ( pulls stretching ).
These changes, which affect the geometry of the suspension of the vehicle, are generally observed by the presence of negative camber ( negative camber ) exaggerated. Here is an overview of the main changes brought about by the hellaflush and why this practice is prohibited.

Changes to the suspension geometry
The majority of vehicles have reduced defects on the adjustment of camber. Indeed, the adjustment of the camber is not provided on different models of vehicles, which makes it impossible to align the vehicle wheels in accordance with the manufacturer's specifications. To compensate the suspension to work outside of the range for which it was designed, which decreases the handling and stability of the vehicle and the contact surface with the road.

Change the geometry of the suspension of a vehicle reduces its maneuverability and safety. In addition, it is prohibited to use components of rigid suspension or insufficient travel. It is also forbidden to modify a vehicle to such an extent that the tires affect a vehicle component or part of the vehicle body touches the floor in normal driving conditions.

Stretched tires ( pulls stretching )
Tire manufacturers set the size of the wheels can be used for each type of tire to ensure optimum performance and safety. It is prohibited to use a combination of wheels and tires that do not comply with the manufacturer's recommendations, as this practice is dangerous and undermines the safety of all road users for several reasons.

Thus, a bad combination wheels and tires:

causes a bending of the tire places that are not designed to support it. Like stretching interferes with the natural movement of the sidewall and the tread, the tire must withstand high stress can cause an increase in temperature;

decreases the contact area between the road and the tire, which reduces the adherence to the ground and driveability deteriorates;

increases the risk of tire failure and tend to tire out its rim;

increases the risk of deformation of the inner sole of the tire (not visible from the outside), which can lead to its destruction;

accelerates the deterioration of the tire due to an overload on a tire load rating less, resulting in rapid and non-uniform tread wear.

The use of flammable or very high pressures to seat a tire on a rim assembly techniques are not recommended because they are very dangerous and can cause permanent damage to the tire. The manufacturer's recommended tire pressure is visible on its side.

Did you know that some insurance companies refuse to compensate their clients when it is shown that the vehicle has been modified with non-compliant components? For your safety and that of others, follow the manufacturers recommendations tires to avoid tragic consequences. Remember that your tires are your only contact with the road.

Offset rims

Photo from Wikipedia showing a rim offset which is installed on a stretched tire


Installing rims offset ( offset ) generally increases the stresses in the suspension components and steering. The space inside the wheel is limited by the mechanical components (suspension, steering, braking system, etc..), The excess is pushed outwards, hence the need to increase the offset rim. However, this increases the leverage between the wheel bearings and, because the wheel is further from its usual fulcrum. These additional constraints will eventually change the camber axles, decrease vehicle stability and accelerate tire wear and other components of Conduct.

The use of wider wheels may require modification to the body. To avoid this, some will install a tire narrow sole stretched to the maximum. Thus, installing a rim offset that exceeds the wing, while the tire tread remain inside is dangerous.

Obviously, this practice is prohibited for any road vehicle shall be equipped with tires according to established standards. For more information, consult your tire dealer or the website of the Tire and Rim Association.





1 : The camber means, in front view of the vehicle, the angle formed by the rolling plane of the wheel and the vertical. It is negative if the top of the wheel is inclined towards the inside of the vehicle and positive if it is inclined outwardly of the vehicle


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I really needed this. I was having a rough day; now I'm slightly happy inside.
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Assuming this isn't abused, excellent.
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The one plus to hella flush is an easier time cleaning wheels and the water won't pool on the low part of the wheel. Apart from that, looks like shit and the fukkers driving those that I've seen do not impress as having mad skills or good judgement; just #fauximmortalitysyndrome
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Even though I'm not into that hellaflush look. This is just another way for them to haggle anyone with a modified car but on the plus side, all the bagged VW/Audi's are screwed lol
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