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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Tue, Feb-20-2018, 03:43:53 PM   #31
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Default Re: M Twin Power Turbo 10W60

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Antony, thanks for sharing. Here is his master spreadsheet which charts everything he's tested thus far:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...pgg/edit#gid=0
Damn... the excitement of finding out Valvoline makes a 10w60 VR1 oil that kicked ass in the test.. followed by finding out it's not available in the US
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LiquiMolly according to a couple of porsche professional racers - is too sheer-friendly and "my engine will blow up with it" (quoting).
LOL. Porsche engines blow up no matter what oil they use. I've been running LM bouncing off the limiter (and above it ) for two seasons now.

Here's Feffman's oil analysis list:
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showp...46&postcount=6

I'm either sticking with LM due to the price point or moving to Total Racing if I'm feeling spendy.
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Has it been determined that the Shell Helix 10w60 and the BMW Twin Power Turbo 10w60 are the same oil? I was under the impression that they are not and have different additive packages.
That’s just everyone’s assumption since it is the same maker. No concrete evidence to my knowledge.
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Old Tue, Feb-20-2018, 05:37:25 PM   #34
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However Im sure they are both made from Shell's Gas To Liquid technology which
makes a type of synthetic oil called an iso-paraffin from natural gas. Apparently this has
similar lubricating qualities to PAO but has better long life qualities ie resistance to shear
but worse low temp properties. I think the long life attribute was the reason for BMW to
change from Castrol to Shell.

I agree the BMW specific oil may have a different additive package to the standard
Shell 10W/60 but the base oil will be the same.

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Old Tue, Feb-20-2018, 07:48:57 PM   #35
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Has it been determined that the Shell Helix 10w60 and the BMW Twin Power Turbo 10w60 are the same oil? I was under the impression that they are not and have different additive packages.
It's not a sure thing, but the specs listed in this MSDS for the BMW stuff match this data sheet for the Shell branded stuff
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Old Wed, Feb-21-2018, 12:35:02 AM   #36
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It's not a sure thing, but the specs listed in this MSDS for the BMW stuff match this data sheet for the Shell branded stuff
Sure looks like they are basically the same oil and certainly the same base oil stock. I used the Twin Power for a couple of oil changes and "thought" it resulted in slightly higher oil temps. I went back to Castrol because I had used it since the car was new and when I did the VANOS rebuild at 47k mi. the cylinder head looked brand new with no discoloring at all and oil analysis is good. Having said that,I wouldn't hesitate to use either oil. I'm sure both are fine.
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I used Motul for the last oil change. Used 5 qts of 10W60 and one qt of 5w40.. Both are the 8100 series, so I was told it was ok to mix.. I am actually liking the motul over Castrol.. Engine is running a little cooler and quiter, but again, I've put only 200 miles, so time will tell
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Sure looks like they are basically the same oil and certainly the same base oil stock. I used the Twin Power for a couple of oil changes and "thought" it resulted in slightly higher oil temps. I went back to Castrol because I had used it since the car was new and when I did the VANOS rebuild at 47k mi. the cylinder head looked brand new with no discoloring at all and oil analysis is good. Having said that,I wouldn't hesitate to use either oil. I'm sure both are fine.
Everyone, here in the gulf, that i know who switched from castrol to Twin Power had higher oil temps. I am running Twin power right now for the first time as TWS wasnt available and I would have had to ship it in and I didn't have time. So im going to run it and when summer hits we'll see what my car does especially with the BW oil cooler.
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I used Motul for the last oil change. Used 5 qts of 10W60 and one qt of 5w40.. Both are the 8100 series, so I was told it was ok to mix.. I am actually liking the motul over Castrol.. Engine is running a little cooler and quiter, but again, I've put only 200 miles, so time will tell
I see we're in similar climates... why would you mix in one qt of 5w40?
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I see we're in similar climates... why would you mix in one qt of 5w40?
If I remember correctly, HTHS of motul 10w60 is a tad higher(5.8) when compared to castrol(5.4). To reduce the HTHS value, you need to mix a quart of 5w40..
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