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Old Tue, Dec-04-2012, 12:43:33 PM   #231
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sorry, my mistake. it's 258kmph in almost each gear in regular m3/m5_e39/m3_csl and its 285kmph in all gears in csl no_vmax (keep in mind that if dme reads 285kmph speedo is well over 300km/h mark) it's not in constant location, so if someone interested may pm me and send his bin i will find and tell where it is in particular bin and you can change rpm and speed limits on your own. All this is for free, I don't like EVOLVE style to fart and dissapear. I think if we will help each other and share our discoveries we will have nice progress.
I'm going to start posting locations of what I've found as well. It's better if we can publicly start posting the locations of these maps in hexadecimal form 0xHHHH, along with the revision we found it in, then search the other various tunes for those parts/pieces. It's tedious, but it's the only way to get it done.

IMHO, passing information privately is partially what has led to the problems we're currently experiencing in terms of information obfuscation. Once it's made public, there's no way for it to abscond from open scrutiny.
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I'm going to start posting locations of what I've found as well. It's better if we can publicly start posting the locations of these maps in hexadecimal form 0xHHHH, along with the revision we found it in, then search the other various tunes for those parts/pieces. It's tedious, but it's the only way to get it done.

IMHO, passing information privately is partially what has led to the problems we're currently experiencing in terms of information obfuscation. Once it's made public, there's no way for it to abscond from open scrutiny.
Absolutely p0lar!!!

On that note I'm still working on a "desktop reference guide" to make it a little easier to interpret the DAMOS/A2L file. I know it's REALLY basic and may just be a nice to have for you more advanced folks, but please have a look at a couple pages I've attached via pdf and let me know if this is of any value to you guys.

The plan is to have all the conversions hyper-linked, which you can see in the pdf's (hyper-link blue). I'm also trying my best to translate all this stuff as well, but damn, this is going to be a pretty BIG document when it's done.
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ok 7837907 (euro mss54):
speed map : 0x6EE2 (gears 0x6ED2), offset x0.0625
rpm map : 0x3CA (gears 0x3BA), no offset

you can easily find it in another versions.

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I'm going to start posting locations of what I've found as well. It's better if we can publicly start posting the locations of these maps in hexadecimal form 0xHHHH, along with the revision we found it in, then search the other various tunes for those parts/pieces. It's tedious, but it's the only way to get it done.

IMHO, passing information privately is partially what has led to the problems we're currently experiencing in terms of information obfuscation. Once it's made public, there's no way for it to abscond from open scrutiny.
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Old Tue, Dec-04-2012, 02:07:09 PM   #234
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Absolutely p0lar!!!

On that note I'm still working on a "desktop reference guide" to make it a little easier to interpret the DAMOS/A2L file. I know it's REALLY basic and may just be a nice to have for you more advanced folks, but please have a look at a couple pages I've attached via pdf and let me know if this is of any value to you guys.
I had a quick read through it - it's a LOT more than what we have currently, and looks to be the beginnings of a truly informative document. Nice work!

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The plan is to have all the conversions hyper-linked, which you can see in the pdf's (hyper-link blue). I'm also trying my best to translate all this stuff as well, but damn, this is going to be a pretty BIG document when it's done.
Yeah, I can easily see how the size may balloon, but that's just going to be the nature of this game, unfortunately.

I need an extra DME to expedite development of a JTAG cable unless we can find a way to bypass regional write control imposed by the MSS54[HP], which is actually the best solution.
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I had a quick read through it - it's a LOT more than what we have currently, and looks to be the beginnings of a truly informative document. Nice work!



Yeah, I can easily see how the size may balloon, but that's just going to be the nature of this game, unfortunately.

I need an extra DME to expedite development of a JTAG cable unless we can find a way to bypass regional write control imposed by the MSS54[HP], which is actually the best solution.
what type of jtag pod do you plan on using and what s/w?

SMG has rev matching on downshift, could this some how be transferred over to 6spd manual?
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what type of jtag pod do you plan on using and what s/w?
Honestly, I'm still a bit in the dark about most of that. I know the fundamentals, but I've only spoken to two people about that thus far. One is in Japan and works for a company that says it's being done for a similar setup, and just needs adaptation (no other information than that).

The other is a local friend who programs logic controllers and security devices and says he could make it, but needs the device and some documentation.

Didn't you say you worked for a company that did this sort of thing? My avenues at the moment aren't exhausted, but if you have a more forthcoming way to develop something tangible to continue development of this platform, I could eliminate the issues surrounding the over-flashing renumeration and wouldn't hesitate for one second to make changes that might ordinarily be frowned upon. I think if we got a few of these in the hands of those most willing to document their findings, it would seriously expedite development.

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SMG has rev matching on downshift, could this some how be transferred over to 6spd manual?
I think the issue here lies not in the fact that the DME could rev match, but that it has no idea what the driver's intentions of when removing from gear - up or down shift?
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let me try to find an old jtag pod I can donate to this effort. It will be a parallel port version rather than a new USB version jtage pod.
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Absolutely p0lar!!!

On that note I'm still working on a "desktop reference guide" to make it a little easier to interpret the DAMOS/A2L file. I know it's REALLY basic and may just be a nice to have for you more advanced folks, but please have a look at a couple pages I've attached via pdf and let me know if this is of any value to you guys.
Do you have the DAMOS/A2L files for the MSS54 and MSS54HP publicly available, BTW?
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hakenett,

Are you sure these 5x2 pads for the Jtag connection? If it is do you know where pin 1 would start?

The jtag pod connector I have uses a 5x2 connector. I can easily make an adapter that can be soldered to the pads which would mate with the jtag pod.

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Do you have the DAMOS/A2L files for the MSS54 and MSS54HP publicly available, BTW?
I have one for the MSS54. It's not terribly difficult to find corresponding locations in the MSS54HP though
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