Cam Bolts Replacement at Indy Shop

SYT_Shadow · Tue, Jul-10-2012, 10:44:10 PM

I say bullshit. It took me less than that to dismount the same stuff and take a zillion pics for the DIY.

This is a job that can be done all by yourself. 'Timing the engine' is a job anyone could do

**Joe@PTech** · Tue, Jul-10-2012, 11:16:21 PM

We typically charge work time for everything we do. Granted our Master Tech has a lot of experience and often moves faster than book time. But that price seems really high.

That being said, we've done at least 30 seperate cam gear bolt upgrades all at $450-$650 with parts and most also received a valve adjustment.

$450 is what we charge for just cam gear bolt replacement for those that DIY their valve adjustments. This includes the labor and new bolts.

RedM3/4 · Wed, Jul-11-2012, 12:00:43 AM

And betting your hourly rate for non-fixed price jobs is maybe a bit higher than $85/hour with you being on the left coast, can you give the OP the hours you figure in?

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Originally Posted by Joe@PTech

We typically charge work time for everything we do. Granted our Master Tech has a lot of experience and often moves faster than book time. But that price seems really high.

That being said, we've done at least 30 seperate cam gear bolt upgrades all at $450-$650 with parts and most also received a valve adjustment.

$450 is what we charge for just cam gear bolt replacement for those that DIY their valve adjustments. This includes the labor and new bolts.

**Joe@PTech** · Wed, Jul-11-2012, 03:34:30 AM

That is right, we are at $115/hr and that is on the lower side here in the Bay Area. The entire job to replace the bolts at our shop can take up to 6 hours.

LegitM3 · Wed, Jul-11-2012, 04:00:35 AM

Update:

The shop said that they could do 6 bolts instead of 12 for cheaper. They also said that they would they would drop the $170 diagnosis fee and do a valve adjustment for that cost.

Do both sides really need to be done? I've only heard about bolts breaking on the intake side.

kaiv · Wed, Jul-11-2012, 06:31:12 AM

Yikes, that's quite a high quote.

I do this a lot for the Socal guys. A loooot faster and a loooot cheaper

You only need to do the bolts on the intake side.

///o5e46m3 · Wed, Jul-11-2012, 08:53:08 AM

^^^ Listen to this guy! Kaiv knows his stuff

OP, you are getting ripped off in Seattle. I would just follow instructions of a DIY and just take care of it yourself...

Or even get a group of forum members together on a Sat. and tackle the job...

SYT_Shadow · Wed, Jul-11-2012, 11:05:41 AM

you can use the DIY in my sig... very thorough

///M3Fresh · Wed, Jul-11-2012, 01:20:16 PM

The problem with your shop is that they are saying your bolts are "broken" based on teh describtion. If that is truly the case then I see why it would take so long. Getting broken bolts out in that area isnt the easiest and I would want someone to take thier time.

But you need to ask them if they took the VANOS unit out first. If they didnt then they are feeding a line of BS.

Tue, Jul-10-2012, 10:44:10 PM	#11
SYT_Shadow Piraña Powered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,357 Reputation: 0 Location: Westchester/Boston/Windham	Re: Cam Bolts Replacement at Indy Shop I say bullshit. It took me less than that to dismount the same stuff and take a zillion pics for the DIY. This is a job that can be done all by yourself. 'Timing the engine' is a job anyone could do __________________ Vanos hub / bolts DIY Oil Pan Removal DIY Foam subframe reinforcement DIY Plastics Renewal DIY Spacer DIY ESS NA Tune Review Tools: -Shim kit -Timing tool -Engine support -Grainger foam applicator gun DIY stuff -Available in the NY/MA/NH area

Tue, Jul-10-2012, 11:16:21 PM	#12
Joe@PTech NorCal BMW Specialists Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 860 Reputation: 0 Location: Bay Area, CA	Re: Cam Bolts Replacement at Indy Shop We typically charge work time for everything we do. Granted our Master Tech has a lot of experience and often moves faster than book time. But that price seems really high. That being said, we've done at least 30 seperate cam gear bolt upgrades all at $450-$650 with parts and most also received a valve adjustment. $450 is what we charge for just cam gear bolt replacement for those that DIY their valve adjustments. This includes the labor and new bolts. __________________ Joe Gaffey \| Performance Technic email: info@performancetechnic.com \| phone: 925.426.1361 facebook \| twitter \| PerformanceTechnic.com

Wed, Jul-11-2012, 03:34:30 AM	#14
Joe@PTech NorCal BMW Specialists Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 860 Reputation: 0 Location: Bay Area, CA	That is right, we are at $115/hr and that is on the lower side here in the Bay Area. The entire job to replace the bolts at our shop can take up to 6 hours. __________________ Joe Gaffey \| Performance Technic email: info@performancetechnic.com \| phone: 925.426.1361 facebook \| twitter \| PerformanceTechnic.com

Wed, Jul-11-2012, 04:00:35 AM	#15
LegitM3 Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 330 Reputation: 0 Location: SEA-town	Re: Cam Bolts Replacement at Indy Shop Update: The shop said that they could do 6 bolts instead of 12 for cheaper. They also said that they would they would drop the $170 diagnosis fee and do a valve adjustment for that cost. Do both sides really need to be done? I've only heard about bolts breaking on the intake side. __________________

Wed, Jul-11-2012, 06:31:12 AM	#16
kaiv SoCal vanos/valve specialist :D Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,385 Reputation: 0 Location: san diego	Re: Cam Bolts Replacement at Indy Shop Yikes, that's quite a high quote. I do this a lot for the Socal guys. A loooot faster and a loooot cheaper You only need to do the bolts on the intake side. __________________ AW S65 E92 6MT past: AW S65 E90 6MT- LSB S54 E46 6MT- JB S52 E36 5MT Kaiv's SoCal Feedback! [M3Forum] [iTrader] [Bimmerforum]

Wed, Jul-11-2012, 08:53:08 AM	#17
///o5e46m3 TRAK WDW Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 973 In the garage: '72 CHEVROLET CHEVELLE '05 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: Carlsbad	Re: Cam Bolts Replacement at Indy Shop ^^^ Listen to this guy! Kaiv knows his stuff OP, you are getting ripped off in Seattle. I would just follow instructions of a DIY and just take care of it yourself... Or even get a group of forum members together on a Sat. and tackle the job... __________________ HARP

Wed, Jul-11-2012, 11:05:41 AM	#18
SYT_Shadow Piraña Powered Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,357 Reputation: 0 Location: Westchester/Boston/Windham	Re: Cam Bolts Replacement at Indy Shop you can use the DIY in my sig... very thorough __________________ Vanos hub / bolts DIY Oil Pan Removal DIY Foam subframe reinforcement DIY Plastics Renewal DIY Spacer DIY ESS NA Tune Review Tools: -Shim kit -Timing tool -Engine support -Grainger foam applicator gun DIY stuff -Available in the NY/MA/NH area

Wed, Jul-11-2012, 01:20:16 PM	#19
///M3Fresh Motorsport Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 25 Posts: 2,580 In the garage: '03 BMW M3 '03 BMW X5 4.6is Reputation: 0 Location: Sterling Heights	Re: Cam Bolts Replacement at Indy Shop The problem with your shop is that they are saying your bolts are "broken" based on teh describtion. If that is truly the case then I see why it would take so long. Getting broken bolts out in that area isnt the easiest and I would want someone to take thier time. But you need to ask them if they took the VANOS unit out first. If they didnt then they are feeding a line of BS. __________________ CLICK

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