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Forum: Off Topic Wed, Aug-26-2015, 11:36:47 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 1,121
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Aug-26-2015, 11:36:25 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 1,121
Posted By vivid
Re: Bro Truck edition with POLE

bous fail... whats new?
Forum: Off Topic Sat, Aug-22-2015, 01:09:16 AM
Replies: 503
Views: 9,438
Posted By vivid
Re: Anyone fired up by Donald Trump?

I like bankruptcy and Trump knows that. I will trust him with the country.


But in all reality I can't believe that some, especially here, think he's a legitimate candidate.
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Aug-19-2015, 03:09:05 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 583
Posted By vivid
Re: I've been looking at some franchise ideas. Need help.

Do I actually have to work with any of the options? What is the ROI for each? I'm assuming all are highly successful for a lazy layperson?
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Aug-17-2015, 04:47:08 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 2,228
Posted By vivid
Re: Payday loans, car title loans and other predatory lending. Anyone here involved?

Zo this is one of the worst threads you have ever made. I know that's a pretty big honor, but really this one wins for your total lack of... well everything.
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Aug-17-2015, 04:46:06 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 2,228
Posted By vivid
Re: Payday loans, car title loans and other predatory lending. Anyone here involved?

Exploitation and having a moral conscience.

Making money is not all the same.
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Aug-17-2015, 04:44:42 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 2,228
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Aug-04-2015, 01:44:52 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 601
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Jul-13-2015, 02:19:50 PM
Replies: 9
FYI: Found Zo
Views: 342
Posted By vivid
Re: Found Zo

Came here for a docking threads. Left disappointed.
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Jul-08-2015, 02:22:58 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 1,127
Posted By vivid
Re: New to Road Bikes (cycling) questions

BUY THIS NOW

A garmin is such a great tool. You only need the 500. The 520 has some cool features but I find the interface not work the extra features.
...
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Jul-08-2015, 02:18:57 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 1,127
Posted By vivid
Re: New to Road Bikes (cycling) questions

this. You can then play around by yourself. You will mess things up and you will have to go back to the shop with you head hung in shame, but you will eventually learn.
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jul-07-2015, 08:10:07 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 1,127
Posted By vivid
Re: New to Road Bikes (cycling) questions

I shave legs.
The Win Tunnel: Shaved and Dangerous? - YouTube

I keep my beard.
The Win Tunnel: To Beard or Not to Beard - YouTube

I don't shave arms
The Win Tunnel: Are Shaved Arms Faster?...
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jul-07-2015, 05:38:35 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 1,127
Posted By vivid
Re: New to Road Bikes (cycling) questions

obviously you don't ride.
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jul-07-2015, 03:02:23 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 1,127
Posted By vivid
Re: New to Road Bikes (cycling) questions

agreed: real cycling shorts or bibs. They look stupid but are so much more comfortable.
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jul-07-2015, 02:25:29 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 1,127
Posted By vivid
Re: New to Road Bikes (cycling) questions

I would stick with your current bike and see if you get back into it. No point getting a entry bike just to want to upgrade when you already have a decent, but old, bike.

Helmet, gloves, shorts...
Forum: Off Topic Sun, Jul-05-2015, 04:43:10 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 446
Posted By vivid
Re: Any bros here use the Grindr app?

Which bro is catching?
Forum: Off Topic Sun, Jul-05-2015, 12:15:27 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 446
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jul-03-2015, 05:05:01 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,356
Posted By vivid
Re: If a Bro gets a sex change is s/he still a Bro?

I can respect that opinion, really that's fact, but the question is how would you treat a trans person? Would you refer to a trans woman as she and treat her as a woman, even-though you knew that...
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jul-03-2015, 04:05:14 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,356
Posted By vivid
Re: If a Bro gets a sex change is s/he still a Bro?

I think your top question is a fair question, and if we have any psychiatrist on here I would enjoy hearing from them on the subject. That being said their answer to that discussion does not change...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Jul-02-2015, 11:10:03 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,356
Posted By vivid
Re: If a Bro gets a sex change is s/he still a Bro?

First it was not a joke, it was his serious opinion. Which I am please to see that E has considered what others have said and, at a bare minimum, made his thoughts private.

So your questions...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Jul-02-2015, 03:06:30 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,356
Posted By vivid
Re: If a Bro gets a sex change is s/he still a Bro?

Eric,

It does not matter what you think. Your thoughts are still bigoted and do harm to that community. Watch the John Olive clip he says it perfectly, and if you still have the same thoughts...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Jul-02-2015, 02:40:02 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,356
Posted By vivid
Re: If a Bro gets a sex change is s/he still a Bro?

Well it is to that community so it should be to all. Your comment clearly showed that you knew that too. "I don;t care if its not politically correct." Come the fuk on.

But lets see if you...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Jul-02-2015, 02:36:03 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,356
Posted By vivid
Re: If a Bro gets a sex change is s/he still a Bro?

Eric,

That's fuked. If you have bigoted thoughts keep them to yourself.

You should really just shut the fuk up when in public.
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jun-30-2015, 05:49:36 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

and you will feel pretty stupid.
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jun-30-2015, 04:42:20 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

But only to the questions they want to ask. They rest well God did mean it. We can't prove he didn't mean it, but we don't want to believe it so he must not have meant it.
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jun-30-2015, 12:27:42 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

Sorry but did you not see the New Testament passages in there too? Can you please show me where Jesus or the New Testament refutes the passages from the Old Testament listed above?

But I think...
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jun-30-2015, 12:06:20 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

Ahh, I understand. So you take a very strict and literal understanding of the bible? The following are critical to being a good Christian, don't you agree?


"I permit no woman to teach or have...
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jun-30-2015, 03:30:36 AM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

Just wondering, but how many Christian gods are there? Or does he speak in forked tongue? Or does he only talk to some of his followers?
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Jun-29-2015, 02:36:03 AM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

Lol muneeb, created an account just to say that... :rofl2:
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jun-26-2015, 06:24:30 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

Damn... I'm going to be married a lot of you guys.
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jun-26-2015, 06:23:28 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

That's right. Finally we can get married. :wub: That only leaves driving fast.
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jun-26-2015, 06:06:52 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jun-26-2015, 05:32:21 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

that goat is pretty cute though... just sayin.
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jun-26-2015, 03:48:09 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

marry me slinger. United and City as one.
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jun-26-2015, 03:44:56 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jun-26-2015, 03:42:16 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Re: Can I marry my dog now?

too many comments... I liberality can read them they are populating so quickly.
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jun-26-2015, 03:30:18 PM
Replies: 300
Views: 5,733
Posted By vivid
Can I marry my dog now?

Yeah f-u bigots. Woo-hoo

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/watch-live-supreme-court-decision-sex-marriage/
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jun-12-2015, 12:13:18 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 898
Posted By vivid
Re: How Well Can You Hear Audio Quality?

But, were you to get financing, for the headphones or the plane?
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Jun-04-2015, 05:41:13 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 1,612
Posted By vivid
Re: Improving credit scores.

I would also research whether carrying a balance does in fact help your score. I have read that is does not. I would also research a term called credit utilization. Which is far more important.
...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Jun-04-2015, 05:34:47 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 1,612
Posted By vivid
Re: Improving credit scores.

Zo,

you already have, or have had, a mortgage on your condo, a car loan and credit cards?

All in your name and all in good standing? Your score should be higher. You already have enough and...
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jun-02-2015, 12:45:00 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 804
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Sun, May-31-2015, 01:14:36 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 692
Posted By vivid
Re: Please help me choose a monitor

So can we assume he is into either video editing, or photo editing?
Forum: Off Topic Thu, May-28-2015, 02:08:26 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 747
Posted By vivid
Re: Removing Body Hair Question

You have some fuking stupid friends. One way of removing hairs is GAY vs another, GTFO.
Forum: Off Topic Thu, May-07-2015, 11:37:58 AM
Replies: 2,764
Views: 80,466
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Mon, May-04-2015, 12:30:51 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 395
Posted By vivid
Re: Sick Sounding 991 - What Exhaust is this?

Glad to hear that his PCCB squeal too. So embarrassing.
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-16-2015, 06:30:01 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 1,569
Posted By vivid
Re: Best Mid-sized luxury car

I've seen the reliability reports, but they do not match the reports of VW/Audi owners that I know. They are constantly have problems.
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Apr-15-2015, 12:44:37 PM
Replies: 156
Views: 3,785
Posted By vivid
Re: road bike suggestions

You can't change the geometry by changing just one piece. While it may still be a good bike, there are too many unknowns for me.
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Apr-13-2015, 12:37:04 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,091
Posted By vivid
Re: Have 26hrs to decide: S6 or S6 Edge

Well quick update. I picked up and S6 Edge. It had some very minor scratches on the screen, so confirmed I could return without penalty. Played with it for the weekend, and I will be taking it...
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Apr-10-2015, 11:53:30 AM
Replies: 156
Views: 3,785
Posted By vivid
Re: road bike suggestions

I go through the same though process every 6mo or so. I still haven't yet picked on up. I think a track bike is next on my list. We have a velodrome just down the street and I think I would do...
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Apr-10-2015, 11:51:45 AM
Replies: 156
Views: 3,785
Posted By vivid
Re: road bike suggestions

I had a terrible experience with my entry trek, as did Palmer. IMO, entry treks are POS, I personally would avoid. In fact trek is now a brand I avoid in general. Also the OP should ask around the...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-09-2015, 09:57:17 PM
Replies: 156
Views: 3,785
Posted By vivid
Re: road bike suggestions

11spd hub just needs a spacer to fit a 10spd cassette. I'll default to Palmer re steel. He's knows his steel. From the looks of it, it hits all elements that you need it to. A test ride is...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-09-2015, 06:31:34 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,091
Posted By vivid
Re: Have 26hrs to decide: S6 or S6 Edge

but the gold S6 is like a mirror. I need to primp, always.
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-09-2015, 06:27:01 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,091
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-09-2015, 06:24:52 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,091
Posted By vivid
Re: Have 26hrs to decide: S6 or S6 Edge

I was loosing my mind with the rush of iPwn suggestions, thanks for saving me ains.


The Note 4 is a great device, but it's just too big for me. I was think about waiting for the spec and...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-09-2015, 06:20:19 PM
Replies: 156
Views: 3,785
Posted By vivid
Re: road bike suggestions

You know an older steel road bike would be a great option. Slap 105 on it and call it a day. You could easily be out the door for sub $1k, as long as you don't go crazy on the frame. Or want to...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-09-2015, 02:53:52 PM
Replies: 156
Views: 3,785
Posted By vivid
Re: road bike suggestions

To be honest if we are talking about reliability and durability in wheels we should be pointing him to a 32 spoke 3x laced wheel, with an ultegra, white industry or phill wood hub. Certainly not an...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-09-2015, 12:49:22 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,091
Posted By vivid
Re: Have 26hrs to decide: S6 or S6 Edge

Yeah but I know which one I like, the Edge. Now the logical part of me is surfacing and asking if it's worth the extra cost and how much more fragile is that exposed screen going to be.
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-09-2015, 12:27:28 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,091
Posted By vivid
Have 26hrs to decide: S6 or S6 Edge

I'm getting a new phone and am torn between the sexy as hell S6E or the standard S6.

Pros:
Sexy as hell
Feels great in the hand and would not need a case (the screen edge gives it tons of grip...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-09-2015, 12:14:31 PM
Replies: 156
Views: 3,785
Posted By vivid
Re: road bike suggestions

Yeah, that's a pretty sh1t deal for a 3 year old bike. End of year model clearance would get you much bigger discounts on the out going model that that.
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Apr-09-2015, 12:11:20 PM
Replies: 156
Views: 3,785
Posted By vivid
Re: road bike suggestions

You know, I was talking with Scott about this last night and came to a conclusion that a bunch of roadies are giving you advise that may not be useful. If you have no desire to be competitive and...
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Apr-08-2015, 08:54:02 PM
Replies: 156
Views: 3,785
Posted By vivid
Re: road bike suggestions

I personally would avoid SRAM. I LOVE how it rides, but it needs constant attention and unless you like messing with bikes I would avoid.

I would like to throw one more bike into the mix, Felt...
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Apr-08-2015, 08:27:44 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,062
Posted By vivid
Re: Best discrete installed RADAR detector?

why do you think he's wanting to avoid them?
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Apr-08-2015, 03:05:33 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,062
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Sat, Mar-21-2015, 08:53:48 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 2,749
Posted By vivid
Re: Motion to ban all mention of stance on this forum!!!

http://www.atlantaboxerrescue.org/photos/Boxerstock-2012-99.jpg
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Mar-20-2015, 06:51:22 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 2,749
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Mar-20-2015, 06:01:05 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 2,749
Posted By vivid
Re: Motion to ban all mention of stance on this forum!!!

if you dare fuk that car up I will have to borrow one of your guns. YoU wIlL hAvE MaDe mE cRazY.
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Mar-20-2015, 02:39:02 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 2,749
Posted By vivid
Re: Motion to ban all mention of stance on this forum!!!

You had it before? ;)

I'm all for taking a stance on stance. Friends don't let friends stance. Performance, the anti-stance.
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Mar-06-2015, 05:59:45 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 107
Posted By vivid
Re: American Crime - anyone watch it?

It's on my DVR to watch
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Feb-25-2015, 09:17:24 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 898
Posted By vivid
Re: What's up m3gt3forum POS editions

Dom, slow your roll.


Friends don't let friends roll over.
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Feb-24-2015, 03:48:12 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 716
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Feb-24-2015, 12:08:11 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 1,693
Posted By vivid
Re: Better Call Saul

I wanted to like it, but after the 2nd episode I called it quits. Maybe if it lasts I'll binge watch on netflix
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Feb-16-2015, 05:34:33 PM
Replies: 6,821
Views: 218,923
Posted By vivid
Re: What was the last movie you watched and would you recommend it?

Gone Girl, it was amazing. 2.5hrs and I did not want it to end.
Forum: Off Topic Sun, Feb-15-2015, 11:44:15 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 280
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Sat, Feb-14-2015, 12:54:12 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 465
Posted By vivid
Re: I heard you guys like R8 LMS'ses

AutoUnion would not approve.
Forum: Off Topic Sat, Feb-14-2015, 12:52:55 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 280
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Feb-12-2015, 04:36:38 PM
Replies: 162
Views: 5,018
Posted By vivid
Re: Own an In Ground Pool? Come in...

I've been in several (dozen or more), but they were all in tropical settings. Maybe they were sea water, more than salted municipal water. For me it was just like the ocean, extremely salty and...
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Feb-12-2015, 02:55:37 PM
Replies: 162
Views: 5,018
Posted By vivid
Re: Own an In Ground Pool? Come in...

I personally hate salt water pools. I much prefer fresh water. I know it has load of chemicals, but I find the salt burns the heck out of my eyes and chlorine does not, or at least not to the same...
Forum: Off Topic Sun, Feb-08-2015, 09:48:12 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 886
Posted By vivid
Re: Rant fread: bicycle + five-O

Sam, sounds like you did everything right. Not sure what was up their ass's.
Forum: Off Topic Sat, Feb-07-2015, 08:31:40 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 886
Posted By vivid
Re: Rant fread: bicycle + five-O

Then move to another country. Such a douche comment.
Forum: Off Topic Sat, Feb-07-2015, 07:39:04 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 886
Posted By vivid
Re: Rant fread: bicycle + five-O

That's a tough call without knowing the road. I've been passed a bunch on residential roads, and expect it, but safely.
Forum: Off Topic Sat, Feb-07-2015, 07:27:32 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 886
Posted By vivid
Re: Rant fread: bicycle + five-O

Sam,

As long as you didn't do anything that could have made them feel endangered (passing quickly, revving engine, come by close, etc.) then they were being douche. I'm sure you are aware they...
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Feb-06-2015, 01:34:04 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 1,882
Posted By vivid
Re: If the wifey says...

always do something. Even if it's small like a love letter or new vacuum bags.
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Feb-05-2015, 01:07:41 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 994
Posted By vivid
Re: Florida move: update

woohoo, that's great news. I will have to grab Jerk and make a road trip
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Feb-03-2015, 01:22:01 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 1,796
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Jan-28-2015, 01:13:54 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,334
Posted By vivid
Re: Greeks "we are the hardest workers." Europe: LOL!

It's amazing the EU has lasted this long. We all hate each other.
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Jan-26-2015, 12:34:09 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 740
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jan-13-2015, 01:04:10 AM
Replies: 89
Views: 1,913
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Jan-12-2015, 05:45:15 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 1,913
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jan-09-2015, 01:39:47 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 418
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Fri, Jan-09-2015, 01:39:26 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 418
Posted By vivid
Re: MB NA to NJ b-bye...

I know right... lots of blacks and f4gs.
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Jan-08-2015, 05:52:50 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 418
Posted By vivid
Re: MB NA to NJ b-bye...

They did and responded with LOLWAT!
Forum: Off Topic Thu, Jan-08-2015, 05:47:20 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 418
Posted By vivid
MB NA to NJ b-bye...

MB NA moves to ATL

http://blog.caranddriver.com/southbound-and-down-mercedes-moving-new-jersey-headquarters-to-atlanta/
Forum: Off Topic Wed, Jan-07-2015, 01:26:08 PM
Replies: 350
Views: 6,800
Posted By vivid
Re: Terrorist Attack in Paris

"The gunmen shouted "we have avenged the prophet,"" by attacking a satirical newspaper... The Onion had better watch out.


:facepalm:
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jan-06-2015, 04:05:44 PM
Replies: 115
Views: 2,350
Posted By vivid
Re: AutoRaveTV ! - Automotive Journey Update

Rave,

Can't wait to see more, good luck with it. love the outside shots.
Forum: Off Topic Tue, Jan-06-2015, 04:05:07 PM
Replies: 115
Views: 2,350
Posted By vivid
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Jan-05-2015, 09:33:23 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 485
Posted By vivid
Re: Can you take a loaner across state lines?

I would be within that limit. My paper work does not have any restrictions bar returning the car in the condition and fuel level it was given to me.
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Jan-05-2015, 01:12:39 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 485
Posted By vivid
Re: Can you take a loaner across state lines?

I'm in a similar situation, but my car is in for serious engine work, and they have had the car since Dec 20th. They should be finishing up early next week, but that does not change the fact that I...
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Jan-05-2015, 12:26:37 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 485
Posted By vivid
Can you take a loaner across state lines?

Just wondering but is it legal to take a loaner car, with dealer plates, across state lines? Or are they restricted to the state which issued the dealer plates?
Forum: Off Topic Mon, Jan-05-2015, 12:18:16 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 1,719
Posted By vivid
Re: Headphone Recommendations

Sam,

We have a Guitar Center and Sam Ashe close by. I was thinking about heading down there trying some demos and narrowing down the selection. If they don't have a good selection or they don't...
Forum: Off Topic Sun, Jan-04-2015, 09:21:59 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 584
Posted By vivid
Re: Because Porsche makes God's chariots...or maybe not

More importantl, they forgot the left peddle.
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