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Mollzyie Wed, Apr-17-2019 05:38:59 PM

Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texaz3 (Post 1067946946)
Detailers use same cleaners, but you have to keep in mind that detailers are not restorers. They clean, not fix.


I hear u man ... that is 100% true 👍🏼

CatchMyM3 Wed, Apr-17-2019 07:11:02 PM

Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?
 
Interesting topic. My E46 seats have always bothered me after purchasing a year ago (126k miles). Dove leather is, of course, a nightmare. If you ask a detailing-centric audience, magic eraser is the devil. If you ask a car forum, it's a useful tool when used with care.

My Dove leather has been cleaned with Gliptone and even diluted APC. The shine never improves. :thumbsdown: At this point, I'm almost willing to risk a slight amount of leather damage. I'll have to try a test spot.

Excuse the poor lightning. The leather is decent but this photo makes it look terrible.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...822a62b7_c.jpg

Braymond141 Wed, Apr-17-2019 07:25:53 PM

Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve M3 (Post 1067946874)
Great info in this thread. Planning to try some of these recommendations on my spare steering wheel and then my interior if that goes well :thumbsup2:

Steering wheels are already quite thin in their coatings if used and worn. I would not use the eraser there.

Braymond141 Wed, Apr-17-2019 07:27:43 PM

Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CatchMyM3 (Post 1067947008)
Interesting topic. My E46 seats have always bothered me after purchasing a year ago (126k miles). Dove leather is, of course, a nightmare. If you ask a detailing-centric audience, magic eraser is the devil. If you ask a car forum, it's a useful tool when used with care.

My Dove leather has been cleaned with Gliptone and even diluted APC. The shine never improves. :thumbsdown: At this point, I'm almost willing to risk a slight amount of leather damage. I'll have to try a test spot.

Excuse the poor lightning. The leather is decent but this photo makes it look terrible.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...822a62b7_c.jpg

You’re not using strong enough APC. Try Simple Green full strength (just don’t spot it on the seat, it will leave clean “water spots”.). Then eraser soaked in water (not dripping, but not dry).

CatchMyM3 Wed, Apr-17-2019 07:36:55 PM

Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Braymond141 (Post 1067947016)
You’re not using strong enough APC. Try Simple Green full strength (just don’t spot it on the seat, it will leave clean “water spots”.). Then eraser soaked in water (not dripping, but not dry).

Would you follow up with Gliptone conditioner or leave it alone after cleaning?

Braymond141 Wed, Apr-17-2019 09:10:47 PM

Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CatchMyM3 (Post 1067947019)
Would you follow up with Gliptone conditioner or leave it alone after cleaning?

Conditioners really do nothing.

M_Parallel Thu, Apr-18-2019 12:58:09 PM

Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?
 
^^
Apart from making it shiney again.

At least that is my personal experience with them.

Mindart Thu, Apr-18-2019 05:16:43 PM

Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?
 
Then what is the keep to keeping the hides supple? just keeping the exposure to UV and heat to a minimum? ( meaning the car needs to be garaged)

so just de-greasing them periodically is really the best thing you can do for your leather?

In my case, mine have been repainted and the job was shotty and at this point I need to decide if repainting them again ( after a through cleaning of course) is worth it or just redoing the seats them self.... since i have some deep cracking , redoing the leather might be the best thing.... we'll see how much i really want to spend on this


Quote:

Originally Posted by Braymond141 (Post 1067947063)
Conditioners really do nothing.


Texaz3 Thu, Apr-18-2019 05:29:37 PM

Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?
 
Most people do not realize that leather in most cars, E36 and 99% of BMWs included, is not the leather you typically see on a couch or leather recliner. Or office chair.

It is completely sealed, processed, stamped, painted, and plastic coated - so putting conditioner on such leather is like putting it on a piece of glass - it won't be absorbed by anything but your pants. Thus the post above saying that conditioners do nothing.

Keep it clean, away from heat and sun exposure, and that's the best you can really do.

M_Parallel Thu, Apr-18-2019 06:12:14 PM

Re: re-dye, re-upholster or leave them alone?
 
^^
So how come APC works then? Or other degreasers? If it's just glass your cleaning...


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