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BMW F1
Thu, Dec-09-2004, 11:34:46 PM
Sources say that a year after the debut of the new E90 M3, BMW will launch their new CSL rocket which will be fired across the bow of their other German rivals AMG & Porsche. The CSL will run a similar type configuration to the E90 M3 but with a lot more HP and expect to see alot more carbon as the fight against weight continues.

The CSL is rumored to have another 30Kw / 40HP on top giving the CSL the massive figures of 330Kw / 442 HP.....

Stay tuned for more....

Divexxtreme
Thu, Dec-09-2004, 11:52:46 PM
Of course the bastards won't sell it here in the states. :banghead:

Predator
Thu, Dec-09-2004, 11:55:53 PM
LOL i best start saving up.

Predator
Thu, Dec-09-2004, 11:56:39 PM
but seriously i'd only buy a M6 CSL, no more M3 i can't condone looks like the E90..

InSaNe///M3
Fri, Dec-10-2004, 12:29:05 AM
Of course the bastards won't sell it here in the states. :banghead:

Yup, so there's no point in drooling over one.

but seriously i'd only buy a M6 CSL, no more M3 i can't condone looks like the E90..

The M6 sounds like a beast.. A BEAST! I'd love to have one, I can't imagine an M6 CSL, it'd eat many cars alive :bow:

FB
Fri, Dec-10-2004, 01:22:07 AM
but seriously i'd only buy a M6 CSL, no more M3 i can't condone looks like the E90..

oh i definitely agree!
and the M6 is certainly a worthy replacement to our current M3's....

hmmmmm - i need to do some math on projected earnings by 2007 or so.... :peace:

BMW F1
Fri, Dec-10-2004, 01:52:56 AM
Come on guys, is this good information or what, few more votes in the Final Contest would be great :D ........ never hurts to ask.

We will be lucky and get the next generation CSL, we might have to get one for Scott and do a US conversion on it for him. A M6 CSL would be mighty tasty too.

Predator
Fri, Dec-10-2004, 01:54:52 AM
or should i wait for the M1 ? ? ?

Idz21
Fri, Dec-10-2004, 02:28:55 AM
It's also been confirmed that the CSL, this time around, will only be sold in the United States. After a very poor showing in its original debut over seas, the German automobile maker will be shifting their primary target market to North America.

RagingLamb
Fri, Dec-10-2004, 03:45:25 AM
It's also been confirmed that the CSL, this time around, will only be sold in the United States. After a very poor showing in its original debut over seas, the German automobile maker will be shifting their primary target market to North America.

Noway! That's awsome. Well for you guys, I live in Canada.

Idz21
Fri, Dec-10-2004, 01:51:19 PM
Noway! That's awsome. Well for you guys, I live in Canada.
Well Canada is in North America. I didn't mean to say "only" in the US.

RagingLamb
Fri, Dec-10-2004, 11:35:40 PM
Oh..ok. Even better :D

By the way, how much longer till you get your car?

Idz21
Sat, Dec-11-2004, 01:11:10 AM
Oh..ok. Even better :D

By the way, how much longer till you get your car?
Let me direct you to my sig, as well as this link -> http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=45317&highlight=performance+delivery :D

RagingLamb
Sat, Dec-11-2004, 06:38:54 PM
Let me direct you to my sig, as well as this link -> http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=45317&highlight=performance+delivery :D

lol...my bad, should have checked the sig. Not much longer then. Awsome. :thumbsup:

Idz21
Sat, Dec-11-2004, 10:09:11 PM
lol...my bad, should have checked the sig. Not much longer then. Awsome. :thumbsup:
Yes sir. Took me off guard a little bit as I was expecting it a month and a half later, but it's all good. I just hope it doesn't snow during my PCD.

Divexxtreme
Sat, Dec-11-2004, 10:22:01 PM
Okay...that is NOT funny IDZ. :chair: :beer:


It's also been confirmed that the CSL, this time around, will only be sold in the United States. After a very poor showing in its original debut over seas, the German automobile maker will be shifting their primary target market to North America.

E90_GEN
Sat, Dec-11-2004, 10:41:16 PM
Of course the bastards won't sell it here in the states. :banghead:

hey man, they brought the Skyline to USA. Im sure there is a way to do the same for the CSL. There is the way but it probably coast so much that the dude is like forget it. Also the CSL is way to sporty man, It doesn't even have a damn radio nor an airconditioner. In USA wihtout Air Conditioning, no way hosey. Man you don't want that. The m3 it self gives you the power, the luxury needs.

Divexxtreme
Sat, Dec-11-2004, 10:46:12 PM
You can get the current CSL with A/C. The radio I could care less about. I really hope they sell it here.

BMW F1
Mon, Dec-13-2004, 10:24:08 AM
I think it would have to be atleast a consideration for BMWAG to look at America as another option, it wouldnt hurt and lets face it, more numbers built could drop the price tag for the beast, downwards.....

Predator
Mon, Dec-13-2004, 11:03:31 AM
I think it would have to be atleast a consideration for BMWAG to look at America as another option, it wouldnt hurt and lets face it, more numbers built could drop the price tag for the beast, downwards.....
but then it would be come a common car. Something which BMW does not want to do.

BMW love make special runs of M3's. Undoubtedly i read somewhere there will be a new CSL but the EVo badge will also be resereccted.

Why did they make the E46 so hard to imitate ? to stop the tw@s that ruined the E36 M3 image. But yet again even with the E46 CSL its happening again.

I seriosly think BMW will make the new e90 M3 and CSL totally different from the rest of the e90 range.

Predator
Mon, Dec-13-2004, 11:04:40 AM
and lastly BMW is German, u think there gonna sell the CSL in America but not EuropE ? if they i are i hate to say it but the European Version would be superior albiet even if its just 10bhp more.

Psycho792
Mon, Dec-13-2004, 11:23:00 AM
lol that would never happen

BMW F1
Mon, Dec-13-2004, 09:08:13 PM
No I would say that is will be made more available world-wide and the current production may be increased by a 100 or so units. Only 27 were officially imported here into Oz so we are not talking massive numbers. Not sure the CSL would ever become a RUN OF THE MILL car. BMW have tried extremely hard to keep this car the genuine article by only selling M made parts to its VIN number. You will ALWAYS have companies out there that try and remodel parts and sell as CSL parts.

If you want an example of this, look at the clothing industry. Anyone can go to the market and pick up a FAKE Nike Tshirt for less than half of the real deal price and this will continue with cars like the CSL. Fact but true.

The CSL E90 will have a lot more "Special Made to Order Parts" that will stand it out from the crowd. Any ideas what these might be for a guess ?

///meric
Mon, Dec-13-2004, 10:49:32 PM
Its gonna be a beast, i bet BMW is gonna make the motor rev like crazy, im guessing 9.3k at least

BMW F1
Mon, Dec-13-2004, 11:06:06 PM
Unsure how high the engine will rev but can be assured it will be CRAZY MAD. A lot lighter, maybe bigger displacement, new ratios, all adds up to EXTRA fun.

///meric
Mon, Dec-13-2004, 11:44:03 PM
well the m5 v10 can safly rev to 8250, if BMW loses the internal mass then i think 9500 is easly acheavable, lol take that honda

BMW F1
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 12:16:29 AM
I have to admit if the M5 or M3 were able to reach those numbers, it would be a huge deal.

///meric
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 12:30:34 AM
I have to admit if the M5 or M3 were able to reach those numbers, it would be a huge deal. i bet the e60 can hit 9k, its jsut going to take a while for the ecu to the cracked

chigs
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 12:32:56 AM
Were did you get your sources from? CSL will always be sold in Europe, espeacially German. The CSL or M following is so big that BMW would be stupid not to sale them there. They sold out all the CSL, so how can it be a poor showing. CSL's have always been sold in europe, why would they stop?

The thing BMW need to do is sale the CSL through out the world, this included US. But not to over expose the CSL range like the M. This is will maintain the value and exclusivity. 1000 cars for German, UK and US. 500 for the rest for the major countries.

CSL's are not sold for the number, BMW sale them to show there engineering know how and performance hertiage. I hope they show this in the US.

BMW F1
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 12:36:57 AM
Correct, unsure where the idea of the CSL NOT being sold in the UK came from BUT rest assured, the CSL will be a global release instead of a UK right hooker ONLY.

InSaNe///M3
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 01:00:48 AM
I was thinking of smuggling a CSL in here from Bangladesh or Saudi Arabia..

Nah just playing. I wonder if I could.. I know lots of people that can hook me up :bugeye:

BMW F1
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 01:11:35 AM
Lol, I suppose anything is possible with money.

vicious_csl
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 04:15:50 AM
those BMW execs from Germany are really pissin me off. now that the CSL is pretty much out of the question when it comes to having it shipped here, all i can do is slap in all those CSL parts to make mine look like one. i know its all imitation but what can i do the CSL is freakin insane, but yes someday i'll smuggle that CSL here in the US.

Idz21
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 01:01:46 PM
those BMW execs from Germany are really pissin me off. now that the CSL is pretty much out of the question when it comes to having it shipped here, all i can do is slap in all those CSL parts to make mine look like one. i know its all imitation but what can i do the CSL is freakin insane, but yes someday i'll smuggle that CSL here in the US.
you belong on pimp-my-ride :chair:

Predator
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 02:25:30 PM
(rubbing salt in2 deep wounds ) WHAT U DNT GET A CSL !, GET OUTTO OF HERE !

http://bolt.badassbuddy.com/images/buddies/badassbuddy_com-retardrage.gif

glenspeed
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 03:46:54 PM
It's also been confirmed that the CSL, this time around, will only be sold in the United States. After a very poor showing in its original debut over seas, the German automobile maker will be shifting their primary target market to North America.

as good as the CSL was, for the money it didn't get great marks....read again, for the money. on a standalone basis the CSL is an amazing feat of engineering and has all the cool parts in CF, but let's face it, put some Michelin PSC's on our stock M3's for $1200 and there would not be a huge difference to support the price increment of the CSL. The biggest complaint was that it didn't even come with ceramic brakes or for that matter much better brakes over the stock M3. That should have been something BMW addresses if the CSL was so track oriented.

vicious_csl
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 04:13:07 PM
you belong on pimp-my-ride :chair:

now all i need is a sink inside and a 10' dvd monitor on every door panel and headrest :haha:

vicious_csl
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 04:17:12 PM
(rubbing salt in2 deep wounds ) WHAT U DNT GET A CSL !, GET OUTTO OF HERE !

http://bolt.badassbuddy.com/images/buddies/badassbuddy_com-retardrage.gif

:ha: :kissass:

Predator
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 09:06:31 PM
as good as the CSL was, for the money it didn't get great marks....read again, for the money. on a standalone basis the CSL is an amazing feat of engineering and has all the cool parts in CF, but let's face it, put some Michelin PSC's on our stock M3's for $1200 and there would not be a huge difference to support the price increment of the CSL. The biggest complaint was that it didn't even come with ceramic brakes or for that matter much better brakes over the stock M3. That should have been something BMW addresses if the CSL was so track oriented.
dude if u drove the CSL u wudn't say that. Its a totally different beast from the M3 E46.

Here is what i reckon of the CSL vs Stock E46 (343bhp).

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=50046

BMW F1
Tue, Dec-14-2004, 09:12:10 PM
Yup have to agree Pred, the CSL and M Stock and pretty much worlds apart when it comes to handling, power and performance. There is so much more to the CSL than a few engine mods and a set of tyres.

glenspeed
Wed, Dec-15-2004, 04:56:54 AM
dude if u drove the CSL u wudn't say that. Its a totally different beast from the M3 E46.

Here is what i reckon of the CSL vs Stock E46 (343bhp).

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=50046

don't get me wrong, I would die to have a CSL. I am just saying it didn't sell well because for the incremental price differential over the stock M3, it would be hard to justify given the performance. I know it's a totally different animal from the stock M3. Frankly, they should have just made the CSL and not the stock M3 IMO.

The price differential (at least in England) was about 20,000 pounds! That roughly equates to $40K US. So again, for an extra $40K which car would you want to have?

BMW F1
Wed, Dec-15-2004, 05:03:03 AM
Im sure the next generation CSL will more than impress if the E46 is anything to go buy(Europe & Australia).... um I mean by.

Predator
Wed, Dec-15-2004, 12:31:24 PM
don't get me wrong, I would die to have a CSL. I am just saying it didn't sell well because for the incremental price differential over the stock M3, it would be hard to justify given the performance. I know it's a totally different animal from the stock M3. Frankly, they should have just made the CSL and not the stock M3 IMO.

The price differential (at least in England) was about 20,000 pounds! That roughly equates to $40K US. So again, for an extra $40K which car would you want to have?
i thought the same as you Glenspeed ! but when i drove it , even if it was 30 G's more exspensive i would have bought it. The noise alone is worth that much. Dnt get me wrong i'm not a BMW snob but the CSL is amazing, GT3 RS and 360 CS amazing.

glenspeed
Thu, Dec-16-2004, 04:12:05 AM
i thought the same as you Glenspeed ! but when i drove it , even if it was 30 G's more exspensive i would have bought it. The noise alone is worth that much. Dnt get me wrong i'm not a BMW snob but the CSL is amazing, GT3 RS and 360 CS amazing.

Yah, I can't get over how nice that intake is...simply awesome at full throttle. As cool as it is, for the money, I would probably be looking at a Porsche C4S at that snack bracket.

BMW F1
Thu, Dec-16-2004, 04:19:42 AM
Any suggestions what could be added or deleted from the CSL and where more carbon could be added ?