I just bought a 1999 M3 Convertible. It has 60K miles and is in perfect condition. It has 240 HP stocked. Whats the simplest thing I can do to it to increase its HP up to 300HP?

Do you want to go Forced Induction?

If not a cam-kit from eurosport will get you to 300 engine horsepower. www.sharked.com for about $3100 or so.

-Richard

if u got the money.. turbo.. active autowerkes

if u got the money.. turbo.. active autowerkes

Yes, yes, that's what I would do.

Better bet now is www.techniquetuning.com as his kit produces 350rwhp on 8psi and a totally stock engine with stock compression for $6800..thats about $1500-$2000 off the aa stage 1 kit which produces slightly less power.

-Richard

is it safe?

Purple, nice sig.

When is this Twin Screw S/C ever going to come out?

Purple, nice sig.

When is this Twin Screw S/C ever going to come out?
thank you sir :thumbsup:

Twin Screw by Eurosport as well at Steve (stimpee on the boards) has been most recently said to be out in no more than 4 months.

This estimate is probably fairly accurate in that they stopped giving estimates in February for fear of not meeting them and this new deadline was given hesitantly but I am thinking it will be out come March at the latest.

Purple, Technique tuning is very safe with very quality tuning. The kit puts out 350rwhp on 8psi and there will shortly be introduced a kit for those who want more power. But one owner has had his car for close to 3.5 months now without so much as a hiccup..and it sounds sweet and seems to pull very well. The owner is ///oris on bf.c (something along those lines) just search Technique Tuning in Foced Induction over there.

-Richard

The TS SC was supposed to be out last March, any idea what the hold-up is? Did the test engine blow up or something? I saw pictures of all of the casts so it looks like all of the parts are in stock.

THe problems never were really made public, basically it was just said that making the production kits just right was taking more time than expected.

THe test car (96 m3) is still running well and apparantly is soon to receive a different pulley to increase the boost levels. It hasnt seen any problems whatsoever according to the crew at Eurosport IN Salt Lake CIty.

The second beta car (99 mcoupe) is also running very well even after his One Lap of America entry in which he got first place in his class. Claims temperatures never rise above accepted levels and the power is always there. He also cams (makes 10-20 more hp) and hasnt had any problems with those he has said.

I also saw the picture on the website www.sharked.com which has either the chargers sitting in a box or the manifolds (i dont remember which) but there look to be plenty so its a promising picture.

Hopefully this newest estimate isnt off by much and hopefully its sooner than 4 months...they really dropped the ball in the European Car article in which they said "it should be out by the time you are reading this" which was in mid-february.

The thread on bimmerforums is now just barely over a year old with tons of replies and that is where some updates pop-up now and again.

***If anyone needs any forced induction information regarding current kits or custom kits to be fabricated, dont hesitate to PM me or post here***
-Richard

What other mods do you suggest ot have before FI though? Like, intake, pulleys, injectors, radiator, intercooler... anything? Or is it a full kit that comes with all the peices

oh also, are there diffrent superchargers for 95 and 96-99? or, does that not matter?

im not too familiar with what exactly OBD I and OBD II is, i just know they are.

anyone wanna explain?

Well, you probably want a stronger clutch as the stock can't handle too much extra power, so the M5 Clutch and lightweight Flywheel from UUC would be a great upgrade. Possibly better brakes depending on what you plan on doing with the extra power (race, or just have fun on the streets).

What other mods do you suggest ot have before FI though? Like, intake, pulleys, injectors, radiator, intercooler... anything? Or is it a full kit that comes with all the peices

Well, most of the things you mention will be included in any complete kit, be it supercharger or turbocharger.

An upgraded radiator isnt a bad purchase as cooling is always a big deal and the $600 is money well spent. www.vacmotorsports.com stocks the fluidyne for the e36 (metal radiator with better cooling capacity.)

If you buy a turbo, an intercooler will certainly be included in the package, certain superchargers offer no charge cooling, some offer aftercoolers and some offer intercoolers.

Most F/I kits will include:

-Blower/Turbo
-Piping
-Injectors
-Software
-Intake
(I may have left something out but thats the basic package)

For Turbo kits look to:

www.aatuning.com (stage 1 uses stock compression and gets about 330 rwhp) and stage 2 utilizes a metal headgasket to lower compression to near 8.5:1 (stock is 10.5:1) which allows for more boost to be introduced to the engine without issues. (and anywhere from 380rwhp and up to about 480rwhp or so)

www.techniquetuning.com which offers a kit currently to fit a stock motor with stock compression (similar to the aa stage 1 kit) and makes somewhere around 350rwhp. (there is soon to be introduced a lower compression kit with the boost turned up..though I am not sure how they will lower compression, be it lower compression pistons or a thicker headgasket)

www.boostlogic.com (this kit has yet to be introduced but it is going to be the best "bang for the buck" when it is introduced. They are well known in the Supra business and are planning to have a base kit with somewhere near 400rwhp for somewhere around $8000.)

For Superchargers:

www.sharked.com is the long awaited Twin Screw Supercharger due out hopefully in the next 4 months (as discussed above) which produced 340rwhp off idle...meaning there is very little spooling/lag involved. The kit should be around $7k and runs on a stock compression motor. (this is upgradeable with different pullies but more power would neccesitate lower compression with either a headgasket or pistons...Eurosport says there is capability for over 450rwhp to be had with smaller pullies and lower compression)

www.dinanbmw.com also offers their well known centrifugal supercharger which produces around 290rwhp on a stock compression motor. With some work this can be upgraded as well but there needs to be caution taken to prevent detonation with higher boost. (this kit is probably the most common form of e36 supercharger..though it is expensive by today's new bmw f/i standards (bang for the buck wise))

There are many firms who produce centrifugal superchargers for the m3....this is a supercharger that "needs to be driven" in that it builds boost as the rpms rise and the torque is really only there in the upper-rpm range...so you need to wring it out more that a turbo or Twin Screw in order to feel the power. Such Centrifugal kits include:

www.aatuning.com (280rwhp)
www.racemarque.com (upwards of 360rwhp for the stage2)
www.asatuning.com (not very reputable)

Other upgrades to consider when going forced induction depend greatly upon how much power you will be making and which type of forced induction you pick. I would upgrade the following:

1)Spec stage 2/3 Clutch
2)A custom built (40% lock up, beefier internals) taller/shorter differential depending upon which method of F/I is chosen (www.diffsonline.com)
3)Bigger brakes or at the least upgraded pads to handle the new power. i would rather big brakes as speeds can get hgih fast with forced induction. www.rogueengineering.com has great Brembo pricing. or www.stoptech.com ... different people have different preferences.
4) AA differential support bracket www.aatuning.com
5) Gauges to monitor at the least AFR, Boost, and EGT (exhaust gas temperature)
6) Either a custom 3" turbo exhaust or a regular e36 aftermarket exhaust (I love the Rogue and it flows very well)
7)suspension to handle the increased acceleration as well as squat and dive associated with bigger brakes.

There is lots of preventative or other things that can be done....some may even call my list excessive and say you dont need these things...its up to you. The mandatory mods are:

-Clutch
-Probably the diff support bracket
-Suspension

oh also, are there diffrent superchargers for 95 and 96-99? or, does that not matter?


The chargers and kits are primarily the same between obd1 and obd2, the biggest difference being software/tuning. As well the Twin Screw is slightly different between obd1 and obd2 as it replaces the intake manifold which is slightly different between the obd1 and obd2. Most of the hardware for either turbo or supercharger is the same.

hope this helps and clears things up....

-Richard

Better bet now is www.techniquetuning.com as his kit produces 350rwhp on 8psi and a totally stock engine with stock compression for $6800..thats about $1500-$2000 off the aa stage 1 kit which produces slightly less power.

-Richard

Agreed, Nice kit, Boris the owner of it lives in my home town i know him, hes going to take me for a ride in it, i will let u know, but from what hes said yes its a great kit.

Agreed, Nice kit, Boris the owner of it lives in my home town i know him, hes going to take me for a ride in it, i will let u know, but from what hes said yes its a great kit.

IM glad someone read that post..it took awhile to write.

Boris is a great guy as far as I can tell from our conversations... and all the videos he has taken of the car have made it seem very impressive yet still very streetable.

-Richard

hey, i read it too, thanks for the reply.

I just registered to thank you for all the excellent information. :)

I just registered to thank you for all the excellent information. :)

Thanks for posting and welcome to the site.

kesepton. I wasnt saying you were ungrateful..just glad that people were reading my thoughts.

I am happy this can help people with their decisions. Seeing as how I am a college student and work very hard for my car mods, I have exhaustively researched my options for Forced Induction as I want/need the "best bang for the buck" system.

I still cant decide among the 3 options listed above, and it becomes harder as each new firm enters the market.

Centrifugal= Power increases as rpms rise....makes you drive the car and according to most owners with boost gauges, holds boost all the way to redline (this is the feeling that my dad's 996tt has and I love it)...I worry about a turbo running out of breath once you reach 6300+ rpms.

Twin Screw= Power like a v8 with no lag or spool time...seems nice but I dont know about production, pricing, or if I want the all the time power (sounds like the best setup but I almost feel like I want to know I have forced induction and not have a v8) if that makes sense. :help:

Turbo= These always seemed out of my reach but now that I can get a Technique Tuning kit making 350rwhp or an AA kit from www.icsperformance.com making similar power for similar money to the Twin Screw...I am just not sure. I like the turbo as you have room to upgrade to a bigger turbo (power is only limited by your budget and the cars weakest components..ie. subframe, driveshaft..etc). I also kinda like the "pshhh" blow-off sound..call me a R1cer..but I like it. Turbos=big torque as well...something the Twin Screw shares and the Centrifugal catches up with in the higher Rpms.

As a matter of reference I can get a Centrifugal supercharger with a boost bump to 11 psi making roughly 350 rwhp for $6750, the Technique tuning kit for $6800 and the Twin Screw for an estimated $7,000. Granted the Centrifugal would be the cheapest install, followed by the Twin Screw, and then the Turbo...but they wouldnt be drastically different in pricing.

If anyone has more questions, fire away...

*I am hoping to become a F/I moderator...any support would be great*


-Richard

I've always wanted/wished I could afford FI for my ///M one day, but for now as a college student and as my daily driver, I'm not going to be able to do it. I don't want to depend on a turbocharged or supercharged ///M to get me around every day...too much wear and tear.

I do, however, enjoy reading 95RogueM3's posts regarding FI. It's very helpful info and I think I'd be lost as to where to start without his insight.

You've got my vote for FI moderator, but remember I WILL be hunting you down with a book full of questions when it's time to go FI! :thumbsup:

EDIT: Mod's, this needs to be a sticky somewhere, for FI FAQs

I do, however, enjoy reading 95RogueM3's posts regarding FI. It's very helpful info and I think I'd be lost as to where to start without his insight.

You've got my vote for FI moderator, but remember I WILL be hunting you down with a book full of questions when it's time to go FI! :thumbsup:

EDIT: Mod's, this needs to be a sticky somewhere, for FI FAQs

Thanks Incubus.

Its hard being a college student with the mod disease....I have told myself I need to wait to go Forced Induction, but after building my car up with suspension and brakes and now a beefier obd1 s52 motor...its about time for me to step up to the plate.

Upwards of $7k for a kit and $1500 for an install is a bit rough though....need to start saving more and more.

Again, thanks for the support.

-Richard

I've always wanted/wished I could afford FI for my ///M one day, but for now as a college student and as my daily driver, I'm not going to be able to do it. I don't want to depend on a turbocharged or supercharged ///M to get me around every day...too much wear and tear.

You'll love it. Once you go FI, you never look back. I currently own a 320HP Eclipse and it's a nice little pocket rocket, but now i'm in the market for something a little more sophisticated, so i'll probably get an E36 M3 and slap a turbo on there, making upwards of 350 without breaking a sweat.

The only issue with these european cars is tuning; it's not like you can just slap on an SAFC fuel controller and tune on the fly. You actually need robust software that will handle your setup, so when looking for a turbo kit, a huge consideration is just in the software alone. All the hardware is no good if there is no brain to control it; so its generally good to stick with what you know is tried and true.

The only issue with these european cars is tuning; it's not like you can just slap on an SAFC fuel controller and tune on the fly. You actually need robust software that will handle your setup, so when looking for a turbo kit, a huge consideration is just in the software alone. All the hardware is no good if there is no brain to control it; so its generally good to stick with what you know is tried and true.

Theres no question that control through an safc would be minimal at best.

You make a really good point that when shopping for a turbo kit or any Forced Induction for that means, software is a big issue...one of the reasons people dont trust RMS.

I think if I were going to spend the $8k or so for forced induction I would look into having a piggyback dyno-tune. I feel that aa software is well proven...however if you look at this thread it would seem as though their tuning leaves something to be desired:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=275429

There is always the expensive option of a standalone (tec3) www.siastuning.com but thats upwards of $2800 and takes lots of tinkering or experience to get everything tuned just right.

I am liking the look of the hardware of the boostlogic turbo kit and now there are a few pics up on their site of the piping and intercooler. The only worry is that they are still undecided on tuning...the overall consensus seems to be that they will be going with a standalone unit...which I am not against but would be something I might take into consideration when looking at kits as I dont know what kind of maps they would be including with the package.

http://www.boostlogic.com/bmwe36news.html

Lets keep this thread alive to provide any info to potential F/I customers. Feel free to post any questions guys.

-Richard

Sticky...Make this a sticky...

I'm planning on putting FI from turbo-kits.com into my bimmer. All I have in it right now is a CAI, Software, and Exhaust. Is there anything else that I should definitly consider adding before or after I Turbo it?

I'm planning on putting FI from turbo-kits.com into my bimmer. All I have in it right now is a CAI, Software, and Exhaust. Is there anything else that I should definitly consider adding before or after I Turbo it?

That was in my first post on Page #2.

Turbo-Kits.com?? Have you thought about tuning for the kit or do you know the specs of the turbo and manifold you will be buying? You really need to think this through before you jump into something....When we spoke previously you didnt know what RPM meant....you really need to research.

Definantly upgrade your clutch among those other things listed in my other post.

-Richard

So im thinkin of runnin one of those 69.95 supercharger kits. Best bang for the buck IMO. 35% better gas milleage?!? cant beat that and for less than 70 dollars. Anyone else have opinions on this? ;) :D

Sort of brining up an old thread, but I'm currently looking to buy an e36 m3 and one of the first mods I want to do is a turbo kit, especially that one on boostlogic.com. But now that I have read this whole thread I'm no too positive about actually getting it as my first mod because I would be driving the car to college everyday which is like 15 miles away from my house, and I would also be driving it all the time when not in school, does anybody think it would be a nice first mod along with an exhaust? I love bmw's but I'm not too knowledgable on them yet concidering its only been like a week since I started researching m3's, I love my friends e36 328 and how it sticks to the ground but can still get sideways when you want it to. I don't really understant what your saying with how bmw's are different when turboing them than any other car you turbo? You still want to be running the same things, i.e. innercool, boost controller....etc, etc right? Sorry if it seems so ignorant but I guess I havn't done enough research yet. But a couple quick questions before I go, first how much boost do you think you can run with the boostlogic turbo kit? After you upgrade the cams you'll be able to run more boost right? And another question whats up the turbo kits on ebay? Are those any good? Like this one for example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7942425961&category=33742. Thanks for all the info too.

Oh yeah one more quick thing, I don't really get the OBDI and the OBDII can somebody please explaine that?

Sort of brining up an old thread, but I'm currently looking to buy an e36 m3 and one of the first mods I want to do is a turbo kit, especially that one on boostlogic.com. But now that I have read this whole thread I'm no too positive about actually getting it as my first mod because I would be driving the car to college everyday which is like 15 miles away from my house, and I would also be driving it all the time when not in school, does anybody think it would be a nice first mod along with an exhaust?

In a quick reponse, NO!, the boostlogic kit is not for you if you are unaware of any part of the m3, and more importantly dont yet have an M3. The m3 is very powerful in stock form and you should drive it as it is before trying to think about an upgrade path for it.

Yes, the parts are the same with most turbo kits be it for a ford or for a bmw. (intercooler, turbo, piping, bpv, tuning..etc)

The boostlogic kit states their plans on the site and should run in excess of 8psi of boost with the addition of a headgasket spacer. (this kit is only available for 95 m3s as they are obd1)

OBD1 is the engine management system which was standard on all cars from fiat to ferrari up to and including 1995..then came obd2 for all 1996+ cars. The difference for your purpose is that 95s use chips to replace the engine tuning and 96+ cars use flashing or changes to the ecu via a device that gives it new inputs and can be removed.

Regardless you need to read more. You need to get the car before you plan your mods.

-Richard

Thanks for the quick response and the info. Yeah it is true I need to get an M3 first, and I wasn't going to turbo it the very min. I got it, it would have been a while for me to save up 9K as I'm a broke ass college student. Thanks agian.

I wanted to add this to the thread. As many have known for a long time RMS has always had good hardware but the software has always been seriously lacking. (as well as customer service)

http://www.rms-sucks.com/links.html

This is a compilation of complaints (mainly from m5 board members but it was posted in bimmerforums and I thought it should be shared here as well.

-Richard

Hey, I just found this thread and have been looking around. I think 95RogueM3 is extreemly helpfull in answering everyones questions and he's extreemly fast. But reviewing the websites and boostlogic.com I was looking at their kit and it says:

"The details of the kit:
Boost Logic has started to develop turbo kits for the M50, S50, M52 and S52 BMW engines in E36 and E36/7 and /8 chassis. We feel that there can be huge improvements made in current available manifolds. The only offerings we have seen are cast manifolds that only fit smaller T3 and T4 on-center turbos."

That is right from the site, and on the first line it says they have a kit for S52 which is OBD II 96+ unless they mean it has an OBD I conversion which they did not state. Please correct me if I am wrong. :thumbsup:

Good to see you found the FAQ. :thumbsup:

The Boostlogic kit currently in production (there are 2 kits out...)

One is an s52 being currently built, but he is going with an AEM standalone system..so essentially he is negating the obd2 in his car.

The second kit is on an MRoadster, an employee of boostlogic, and I believe he is converted to OBD1 with a Greddy E-manage fuel system (kind of like an SMT-6 piggyback)

There are details about the kit being circulated on www.bimmerforums.com and their use of a tubular exhaust manifold is HUGE...and said by BL to possibly gain an extra 50+whp over a cast manifold.

As of right now I am kinda waiting to pass judgement on the kit..I think it will be very very nice when out in production kit form.

Any more questions..please dont hesitate to ask.

Thanks for the fast reply! So, as for the S52 kit they are basically making it for OBD I conversion engines then?

I'm not really big on the F/I forum in bf.c because I'm still learning and trying to understand how all of it works before I go posing in there too much. Because the guys in there know so much about it I'm afraid they flame me or somthing they always seem to get in aguments about stuff. But I personnally know a couple of the guys down at eurosport, and they have taught me alot but I don't live in UT anymore so I don't get to hang around there anymore. :cry:

(P.S. My sig pic is one from last time I was in UT when Ben had Byzanz and stuff, I have more.)

if u got the money.. turbo.. active autowerkes
i agree with that. good choice.

Technique Tuuning's Kit is said to be the best one out there (He built it to prove that AA's wasn't all it's made out to be.)

hi does anybody know where i can order an idle pulley and model # of the K & N filter for the supercharger setup? i have a 95 m3 with vortech vs/1 supercharger setup from european racing technology but i think ERT is out of business bc i cannot find them anywhere online..pls help..thanks

Sorry, I hate ressurrecting dead-threads, but i didn't want to create another topic on it.

I've read through all the posts, and I know that I shouldn't be planning out parts before I even own the car. I'm in the process of searching for an E36 M3, and I'm not set on a certain one at this time.

In the line of performance, what steps should I take to getting a Supercharger installed? As in, what parts should I replace before dropping the money on a supercharger? I see that I'll have to replace the clutch and flywheel with better ones, so what clutches and flywheels do you recommend? I've seen people mention new pulleys and such to give it better performance? I'm new to the world of F/I and upgrades, so be gentle with me :p

And a second question, I'd be looking to add about 6psi of boost (safe for stock engine, correct?), so does anyone have a particular supercharger to recommend??? I'm not looking to drop 8 grand on one either, so I'm looking for a balance between quality and price if at all possible.

Thanks for any information you can give me!

.Bill.

In the line of performance, what steps should I take to getting a Supercharger installed? As in, what parts should I replace before dropping the money on a supercharger?
This will depend upon the state of whatever M3 you buy. A general list might include (above and beyond general maintenance items):

-New Suspension
-Cat-Back Exhaust
I see that I'll have to replace the clutch and flywheel with better ones, so what clutches and flywheels do you recommend?
I personally have and love a Rogue Engineering LTW flywheel and clutch kit which has been tested to nearly 400rwtq, which is plenty for a CF supercharger kit.
I've seen people mention new pulleys and such to give it better performance? I'm new to the world of F/I and upgrades, so be gentle with me :p
The pulley they are talking about is the pulley that connects the supercharger to the crankshaft and which determines the speed at which the blower spins. The faster it spins, the more boost it will produce. However, as you say you want to limit yourself to 6psi, you should stick with the pulley provided in whichever kit you choose.
And a second question, I'd be looking to add about 6psi of boost (safe for stock engine, correct?), so does anyone have a particular supercharger to recommend??? I'm not looking to drop 8 grand on one either, so I'm looking for a balance between quality and price if at all possible.
If you are looking for ~6psi (which is safe on the factory motor), while not spending too much look to:

~$4500-$5000
- www.aatuning.com
- www.vfengineering.com

~$6k,
Look to www.dinanbmw.com

All of the above kits will push very near to 6psi out of the box with no other modifications, and all will produce roughly 275rwhp. Personally, I would go with Dinan or VF, as their kits are upgradeable should you desire more boost, whereas the AA blower is nearly maxxed out (though still effiicient) at its 6psi.

Hope that helps.

:D Thanks for the reply.

Is 6psi the max a stock engine can take? Or is 8psi going to kill an engine?

:D Thanks for the reply.

Is 6psi the max a stock engine can take? Or is 8psi going to kill an engine?
In a CF supercharger application, the engine can take between 10-11psi with the factory 10.5:1 compression ratio. Bumping the boost would require a new tune, different HFM, larger injectors, smaller supercharger pulley, and possibly water injection to cool the intake charge.

Look at www.koperformance.com for their upgrade kits which would need to be purchased in addition to what is already sold by Dinan.

I'm probably going to look at the VF-Engineering ones when the time comes.

So, if I'm understanding you right, I could get the Stage 2 VF-E S/C kit when it comes out, and have it safely putting 8 or 9 psi of boost on a stock M3?

(sorry if I'm slow :banghead: )

~$4500-$5000
- www.aatuning.com
- www.vfengineering.com

~$6k,
Look to www.dinanbmw.com

All of the above kits will push very near to 6psi out of the box with no other modifications, and all will produce roughly 275rwhp. Personally, I would go with Dinan or VF, as their kits are upgradeable should you desire more boost, whereas the AA blower is nearly maxxed out (though still effiicient) at its 6psi.

Hope that helps.

You can go with the Level I Twin Screw setup from AA for $5900, which makes ~300whp and LOTS more torque and responsiveness than the centrif kits. And, it is upgradeable with the addition of water/alcohol injection, or the water/air intercooler and can make over 350whp quite comfortably.

STeve

One of my buddies got the AA Twin Screw on his 98 m3, all I can say is that thing is wicked.

I would go with Dinan or VF, as their kits are upgradeable should you desire more boost, whereas the AA blower is nearly maxxed out (though still effiicient) at its 6psi.

I think AA is now selling a larger blower in one of its E36M3 kits -- the same blower used on the E46M3.

Philip Bradley

So, if I'm understanding you right, I could get the Stage 2 VF-E S/C kit when it comes out, and have it safely putting 8 or 9 psi of boost on a stock M3?

(sorry if I'm slow :banghead: )

Could someone answer that. :(

You can go with the Level I Twin Screw setup from AA for $5900, which makes ~300whp and LOTS more torque and responsiveness than the centrif kits. And, it is upgradeable with the addition of water/alcohol injection, or the water/air intercooler and can make over 350whp quite comfortably.
For some reason when I think SC, the TS kits still dont just pop into my head...I guess they are so superior to the CF kits that I just dont really group them together. You are right though...$5900 is a GREAT price too!
I think AA is now selling a larger blower in one of its E36M3 kits -- the same blower used on the E46M3.
Yep, the C38 rotrex is now available and isnt running at its peak RPM yet, so there is definitely room for more boost.
Could someone answer that.
I must have missed this the first time around. :nixweiss: Yes, you could run the Stage 2 VF kit on your bone stock M3 motor. That is a great option as you dont have to piece together the necessary components for the upgrade to more boost (ie: Software, Injectors, Charge Cooling, etc), as they are going to sell it as a package deal.

The reason you can run this 9psi on your stock motor without even batting an eyelash is because it only makes that 9psi at redline. Unlike a turbo which can make and hold peak boost from as early as 3k rpms, the CF superchargers are spun off of the crankshaft..so they spin their fastest when the crank spins its fastest. Therefore, because the motor isnt seeing a prolonged 9psi, its perfectly happy with that boost level on its stock compression ratio.

Someone else had told me that the engine would be fine, but the transmission would probably die if I used the Stage 2 w/ 8~9 psi of boost.

I'll go ahead and take your word on that, but it sounds like something I may not want to risk (much less uneccessary; 6psi of boost should be enough HP gain for anyone who isn't trying to build a track/quarter-mile car).

Thanks for all your help.
I'll post any more questions that I have about F/I as they come up.

:]

.DM.

Does anyone have the VF stage 1 kit? How long have you had it? Any problems? Easy to install?

what is the best supercharger for about 3 grand, I'll install, so hopefully straightforward installation?

what is the best supercharger for about 3 grand, I'll install, so hopefully straightforward installation?
For $3k it would have to be used.

The cheapest new system on the market is the AA C30 Rotrex Kit for $3995. This kit is good for about 285whp @ 8psi. Yes, install would be fairly straightforward as they include an instruction CD, etc.

Think hard before buying a used kit as they almost always lead to more headaches with pieces having gone missing, something not being just right for your car, etc.