It's not the M, but here ya go.

REVIEW: 2012 BMW 3-Series-Does It Deliver The Knockout Punch Again To Audi, MB, Lexus And The Rest? - YouTube

The Navi looks awful... :-(

Hmm, two things i'm not so hyped about:
1) Kidney grills meeting up w/the headlamps
2) Not sure I'm digging the shape of that dash, looks cheap on the passenger side (maybe its better in person?)

Much improved rear end for sure.

Significantly better than the E9X both inside and out, and that's what matters.

I'll swap that engine into an e30...

I personally think it looks great! Not a fan of the red, but other than that these look awesome. Cannot wait for the M version!

Significantly better than the E9X both inside and out, and that's what matters.

I prefer the integrated E9x navigation screen. This just looks like the taped up an Ipad. It looks out of place to me

I am so thankful to BMW for two reasons:

1- they made the e46

2- and they have eliminated all possible temptation to upgrade from it with their following generations.

Also, re: the review, how does owning a car vs. driving a test car make the review more valuable???? It's not like this is a long-term ownership test.

I prefer the integrated E9x navigation screen. This just looks like the taped up an Ipad. It looks out of place to me

I agree with this. I have never liked when cars had the "pop up" navigation screen.


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Significantly better than the E9X both inside and out, and that's what matters.I have to agreed with you. I find the car look much more aggressive.

Front end looks like a Z4.

I have a feeling that butt will look too high in real life. Still a good car I'm sure.

I like the way the engine sounds when it revs up.

Significantly better than the E9X both inside and out, and that's what matters.

This. I think the E9X will be the Windows Vista of the BMW 3 series line. A crappy version in between two awesome versions.

I'll say it again... I can't wait for the next M3...

-J

Significantly better than the E9X both inside and out, and that's what matters.

I am not really convinced. It just looks like a baby 5 series.:starwars:

Bmw made 3 amazing m3's

The e30, e36 and e46 M3.

The rest will never make us feel the same behind the wheel. I hope BMW proves me wrong since all i drive is M's!

With that said the new sedan's look a lot better than the e90!

Bmw made 3 amazing m3's

The e30, e36 and e46 M3.

The rest will never make us feel the same behind the wheel. I hope BMW proves me wrong since all i drive is M's!

With that said the new sedan's look a lot better than the e90!
I have to disagree here...BMW made 4 amazing cars which will go into history books:
- M3 CSL
- 2002 tii Turbo
- Batmobile
- E28 M5

E30 was even beat in tests by an Delta Integrale, E36 M3 was an understeering b*tch, the E46 M3 was easily outrun by the E36 M3 3.2 and couldn't shake off the E36 3.0 (EU versions)...E9x M3 is just an evolution, a more mature car...
I like the looks of the F30 very much and it looks promising but only regarding to the taxes that EU starts to put on high performance cars...
I owned both versions of the E36 (3.0 coupe and sedan and 3.2 coupe), 2 E46 M3's, S54 powerd Z3M, E39 M5, E34 M5 and now an E92 M3...for me personally, the order of mpleasure is:
E34 M5
Z3M
E92 M3
E39 M5
and then the E36 which could be made a lot of fun after spending a lot of bucks on brakes, suspension etc...
And the E9x is the last NA ///M -- nothing beats a high revving V8, if I want torque at 1500 rpm, I'll buy an 335d... imho...

I have to disagree here...BMW made 4 amazing cars which will go into history books:
- M3 CSL
- 2002 tii Turbo
- Batmobile
- E28 M5

E30 was even beat in tests by an Delta Integrale, E36 M3 was an understeering b*tch, the E46 M3 was easily outrun by the E36 M3 3.2 and couldn't shake off the E36 3.0 (EU versions)...E9x M3 is just an evolution, a more mature car...
I like the looks of the F30 very much and it looks promising but only regarding to the taxes that EU starts to put on high performance cars...
I owned both versions of the E36 (3.0 coupe and sedan and 3.2 coupe), 2 E46 M3's, S54 powerd Z3M, E39 M5, E34 M5 and now an E92 M3...for me personally, the order of mpleasure is:
E34 M5
Z3M
E92 M3
E39 M5
and then the E36 which could be made a lot of fun after spending a lot of bucks on brakes, suspension etc...
And the E9x is the last NA ///M -- nothing beats a high revving V8, if I want torque at 1500 rpm, I'll buy an 335d... imho...

I was just referring to m3's (stock) not m5's!
One of my favorite m5's is the e39 hands down but again I was just referring to m3's!

......and I love e34 m5's! Im still trying to get my hands on a clean example!


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Not digging the rear spoiler and those dinky looking exhaust pipes. Other than that, the interior looks a step-up from the e90.

I have to say, I saw all three versions in person (sport, luxury, and modern) at the DC auto this past weekend. This design looks fantastic in person - both inside and out. I have a 2003.5 E46 M3 now and loved the design from day one and I feel the same way about this. I was never a fan of the E9XX design. I think it looks so good, I will gladly put a deposit on a 2014 M3 if the dealer would take a deposit today.

Sat in a 2012 335i at the DC autoshow and was rather underwhelmed.

The exterior, while cleaned up a bit from the previous 3 Series, is rather unremarkable and I found that odd grill treatment to be just that, odd, rather than interesting, much less good looking.

As for the interior, basically evolutionary from the E90, no better, no worse. Except, the base seats were terrible! Shockingly so. The lower cushions were soft and almost convex they were so lacking in side bolstering. I honestly almost felt like I was going to slide off into either the door or center console just sitting there on the Autoshow floor. This, on the upper tier 300+hp 335i, not the bottom feeder four banger. Presumably there will be a sport package with real seats.

On the other hand, the M5 that was sitting right in front of it? Drooooooool. Sadly, locked and no seat time.

if the exterior looks that good in a 328 trim I can't WAIT to see the 335 and ultimately the M3. Inside...everything but the Nav is looking pretty solid.

I am not soo sold on the headlamps meeting the kidney grills, and the NAV looks a little out of place. Other than that a good improvement from the E9x.

I looks better and more proportional in the video. Certain pictures give the car and odd look. The interior is vastly improved. Curious how the M3 Coupe will look. By the time the new M3 coupe is out i'll be able to comfortable afford a new one. If they do it right it just may be my first new car purchase...but I maybe not...probably used GT3 next :shifty:

This. I think the E9X will be the Windows Vista of the BMW 3 series line. A crappy version in between two awesome versions.

I'll say it again... I can't wait for the next M3...

-J

Can you recommend the person who gives you what you're smoking? :screwy: Have you been living under a rock? The e92 M3 has outdone the C36 AMG, the Audi Rs4 the Lexus ISF in tests regarding handling, stability and overall performance. It's the last NA M3 going to be offered and the only V8 M3.

If you buy a high performance car for the interior, then you should be driving a Lexus not an m3.

What basis do you think the e 92 is "crappy"? It's not the e46 M, get over it. I had both and the e92 is the natural progression from the inline 6 of the e46.

Can you recommend the person who gives you what you're smoking? :screwy: Have you been living under a rock? The e92 M3 has outdone the C36 AMG, the Audi Rs4 the Lexus ISF in tests regarding handling, stability and overall performance. It's the last NA M3 going to be offered and the only V8 M3.

If you buy a high performance car for the interior, then you should be driving a Lexus not an m3.

What basis do you think the e 92 is "crappy"? It's not the e46 M, get over it. I had both and the e92 is the natural progression from the inline 6 of the e46.
Not to mention the E92 M3 will completely DESTROY an E46 M3 in every single measurable way!!!
And don't bring up feel, it's still a BMW, the E9x still has more feel than most cars.

Not to mention the E92 M3 will completely DESTROY an E46 M3 in every single measurable way!!!
And don't bring up feel, it's still a BMW, the E9x still has more feel than most cars.

Absolutely, hey I felt the same way until I owned the e92. As much as you think BMW has forgotten what they do best with the M3 models, they have not.

I look forward to seeing what M division can do with a twin turbo, but don't say that the e92 is crappy. That is just ignorant.:starwars:

I've owned both an E46 M3 and currently own a E9X M3 and I can confirm the E9X is a better car in every way possible. E46 M3s are 15-25 thousand dollar cars and many of their current owners bought them in this price range and are not genuine buyers of E9X M3s or newer M3s but enjoy throwing in their .02$

I have to disagree here...BMW made 4 amazing cars which will go into history books:
- M3 CSL
- 2002 tii Turbo
- Batmobile
- E28 M5

E30 was even beat in tests by an Delta Integrale, E36 M3 was an understeering b*tch, the E46 M3 was easily outrun by the E36 M3 3.2 and couldn't shake off the E36 3.0 (EU versions)...E9x M3 is just an evolution, a more mature car...
I like the looks of the F30 very much and it looks promising but only regarding to the taxes that EU starts to put on high performance cars...
I owned both versions of the E36 (3.0 coupe and sedan and 3.2 coupe), 2 E46 M3's, S54 powerd Z3M, E39 M5, E34 M5 and now an E92 M3...for me personally, the order of mpleasure is:
E34 M5
Z3M
E92 M3
E39 M5
and then the E36 which could be made a lot of fun after spending a lot of bucks on brakes, suspension etc...
And the E9x is the last NA ///M -- nothing beats a high revving V8, if I want torque at 1500 rpm, I'll buy an 335d... imho...

Didn't the E36 get rated one of the best handling cars of the 90's?

Can you recommend the person who gives you what you're smoking? :screwy: Have you been living under a rock? The e92 M3 has outdone the C36 AMG, the Audi Rs4 the Lexus ISF in tests regarding handling, stability and overall performance. It's the last NA M3 going to be offered and the only V8 M3.

If you buy a high performance car for the interior, then you should be driving a Lexus not an m3.

What basis do you think the e 92 is "crappy"? It's not the e46 M, get over it. I had both and the e92 is the natural progression from the inline 6 of the e46.

The E46 GTR had a V8.

As far as the E90 is concerned, it's definitely a step up aesthetically.

The E46 GTR had a V8.

:facepalm: really, and you could just walk into any BMW dealer and buy one correct?:screwy:

I'm talking about an M3 you can buy, not a racing version. For your astute retort I give you this...

http://cdn2.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/5355/Dumbass-1.jpg

:facepalm: really, and you could just walk into any BMW dealer and buy one correct?:screwy:

I'm talking about an M3 you can buy, not a racing version. For your astute retort I give you this...



I don't recall you saying anything about how easy it was to get one, so that was rather rude.

I've owned both an E46 M3 and currently own a E9X M3 and I can confirm the E9X is a better car in every way possible. E46 M3s are 15-25 thousand dollar cars and many of their current owners bought them in this price range and are not genuine buyers of E9X M3s or newer M3s but enjoy throwing in their .02$

I own a fork and a spoon and I can definitely say that the spoon is superior in every measurable way possible. The 90% of eaters that disagree with my assessment are just throwing their opinions around like dirty laundry. Spoon it is folks, cause I'm the definitive authority on that matter, so stop thinking and pay homage to the spoon damn it!!!!

I am so thankful to BMW for two reasons:

1- they made the e46

2- and they have eliminated all possible temptation to upgrade from it with their following generations.

Also, re: the review, how does owning a car vs. driving a test car make the review more valuable???? It's not like this is a long-term ownership test.

THIS!

I love being reminded that when I bought my E46 it was for life. BMW should change their moniker to the 'Ultimate Boring Machine". Hyundai has more design flare, they just don't have the panache.

Meh. Porsche or public transport.

Hey guys. I'm in Germany now (Berlin) on vacation. I went into the BMW dealership, and examined all three packages of the new 3 series sedans. The sports package was an Imola/black 335d. Pretty impressive. I will had pics When I get back to the states (next week). I forgot my transfer cable... :-/.

Glad I have my e46...

I own a fork and a spoon and I can definitely say that the spoon is superior in every measurable way possible. The 90% of eaters that disagree with my assessment are just throwing their opinions around like dirty laundry. Spoon it is folks, cause I'm the definitive authority on that matter, so stop thinking and pay homage to the spoon damn it!!!!

yawn...

I went to the dealer today for a checkup on my car when my service advisor told me they just pulled in the new 2012 335 this morning. Car looks amazing in person. Love the lights in the front and back and the shape of the hood. The complaint he pointed out and I was gonna mention was the nav screen doesn't go in or out and sticks up pretty high in the dash which looks tacky. Other than that, I have no faults for it. The seats were comfortable, stitching is amazing (looks super sporty even on the 328).

Another feature he showed me not in the video is the easy open trunk where once you are near the trunk, if your hands are full, you just have to stick your foot just a tad under the car at the trunk and it pops open. Their is a sensor at the bottom of the car. This is gonna be my definite series to jump on next.

Made a trip to the dealer yesterday and they had a new 2012 just delivered back in the wash bay getting it ready for the showroom.

Personally don't like the front end. Proportions are just not right. Rest of the car was really very nice - really nothing that caught my eye that I didn't like but at the same time, I didn't go "wow".

Inside was just typical BMW treatment. Mostly just subtle changes that would not inspire me to want to trade up. On the contrary, the Nav display is hideous and as another poster said, it looks like they tacked on an iPad as an after-thought! Awful.

I wanted to see one before I ordered my new M3 and now I'm glad I'm getting a 2012. Hopefully the "next" 3 series will be out before I have a desire to trade again...

Now if they were going to turbo the current V-8 and bump us to 500hp I'd live with a funky front end and iPad dash, but alas they aren't so my order is going in.

Another feature he showed me not in the video is the easy open trunk where once you are near the trunk, if your hands are full, you just have to stick your foot just a tad under the car at the trunk and it pops open. Their is a sensor at the bottom of the car. This is gonna be my definite series to jump on next.

The bad thing I see with this feature (I've heard about it on a few other cars also) is that since there are lots of stupid people on the roads I can see alot of people falling over trying to open their trunks. (Picture this in a Family Guy episode, good laughs).

Ass looks great Front looks terrible. Btw that car with all those options must cost a fortune. I hope they don't kill the m3.

I still think the M version is going to look great. More aggressive front fascia, quad pipes, bumped out fenders, hood bulge (?). And for track use etc., Navi isn't needed so I am not worried about that. Save that money for some sweet upgrades.

I still think the M version is going to look great. More aggressive front fascia, quad pipes, bumped out fenders, hood bulge (?). And for track use etc., Navi isn't needed so I am not worried about that. Save that money for some sweet upgrades.

I agree that the new M version will most likely look great. As for the Nav, no matter if you get Nav or no you get a screen in the dash. At least the screen on the Nav version doesn't look as cheap as the Non-Nav screen. I am sure there will be a LCI in two or three years where they will clean up the interior/exterior a bit!

They all look alike :(

dont really like.. looks too much like the 5. both are very plain IMO.

I am so thankful to BMW for two reasons:

1- they made the e46

2- and they have eliminated all possible temptation to upgrade from it with their following generations.

Also, re: the review, how does owning a car vs. driving a test car make the review more valuable???? It's not like this is a long-term ownership test.

Thank you. No offense to any who like the car. I absoluetly think its hideous. But thats just my personal opinion... E46 is the absolute best timeless body ever created.

Not gonna lie guys, the e46 M still looks good right now. I really hope the new M3 redeems all the "meh" ness I've seen about the new generation of cars thus far.

The e9X, although awesome performance wise, is still not as good looking (IMO obviously) as the e46. And these new ones just look like a boring continuation of e9X styling.

As for the navi, UGLY.

What I really hate about the newer BMWs coming out is they think the OEM radio/nav they put in is amazing, when clearly it's not. And if you want to change it, it's super difficult. This is just speculation, and it could turn out different so take this with a grain of salt but I look at the center console and ask: WHERE would you put a superior double DIN, or even single DIN aftermarket unit? Nothing about it looks like it would fit an aftermarket unit anywhere (it's super thin and super long lol), and you'd be stuck buying all sorts of aftermarket plastic dash pieces and mounting hardware. Heck the e46 required people to CUT the air duct for a double DIN unit :facepalm:

I guess I just hate the fact that almost every car manufacturer's OEM audio/nav equipment and user interface sucks a big fat ballsack compared to aftermarket units half the price. I worked at Lexus for a few years every summer, and every year, the newest iteration of the navigation wasn't even as user friendly as my iPhone's Map app for christ's sake! /rant

As long as it plays music and sounds good I could care less about menus and junk. Guess I'm just old and don't care about the latest greatest nonsense.

I don't really think the regular E46's were that great looking either, kinda meh, only in the M version does it look good. I'm sure this will be the same.

As long as it plays music and sounds good I could care less about menus and junk. Guess I'm just old and don't care about the latest greatest nonsense.

I don't really think the regular E46's were that great looking either, kinda meh, only in the M version does it look good. I'm sure this will be the same.

True that actually. I only refer to the e46 M3 when I say "e46".

... E46 is the absolute best timeless body ever created.

Wow. "best timeless body ever created". Really? I like the E46 better than the E90 and dang sure it's miles ahead of the new 3 series (that front end is atrocious) but to say that ANY M3 sedan/coupe is the "best body ever created" is some serious hyperbole!

There have been lots of automotive works of art printed to posters to adorn the walls of dreamy eyed boys and girls the world over that I think could give some serious competition to the "best body ever created award". I could think of some Ferraris, Lambo's, muscle cars, etc etc etc that if parked next to an E46 would make that "E46 timeless body" absolutely INVISIBLE.

Now maybe if you narrowed that down to the particular class of vehicle the M3 is in, you might have a better argument. And in terms of the M3 itself, you'd have a pretty strong one IMO.

That said, I still like my E90. "Timeless" or not... If the current E90 was in an E46 body... sweet.

Honestly, it doesn't look good. Thank god I own an E46.
perfect car.