View Full Version : He saw my 04 M3 and called me a rich college kid.
billy grant Tue, Apr-13-2004, 02:32:01 AM Hey I'm over 40 and I looooove the 333 hp.
My "peer" and "friend" asked me of I thought I was a "young rich college kid" by owning one.
I gotta ask you guys: what _IS_ the public image of guys who own these cars?
Just curious... .
EMAXX Tue, Apr-13-2004, 02:34:58 AM I don't mean to be rude, but I think your friend is kind of ignorant. Most M3 drivers are about 30-40. A lot of younger kids can't afford the M3. A lot of the people that post here may be younger, but it seems that many of the older owners don't spend their time posting, many of them spend their time driving the car, or doing some other fun interesting thing that they love, making money.
I don't want to start anything. That was just my opinion.
EDIT: Just take a look in the insurance thread. There are many older members that are 43, 44 etc.
M3CJC Tue, Apr-13-2004, 02:37:00 AM IMO it seems like its moslty people in their 20's, im 19 and i know a lot of other kids my age that have M3's.
lakers89052 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 02:53:25 AM I have to tell you I am 34 and just bought my first M3 a month ago. I look like I am 25 though and have gotten looks that kill. Many people stare at me thinking how does a young punk like that afford this car. I had one ask me If daddy bought it for me. I love it!!!! I am 34, an eye doctor and am told I am a punk!!! Life IS GREAT
GHOSTRIDER Tue, Apr-13-2004, 03:31:26 AM Perception is that spoiled rich kid got his parents to fork over 55k to buy him the car he wanted.
Reality is I came from a single parent, one income family. I graduated college and have done very well since I finished my degree in 2001 @ age 23. I earned what I have and I don't take it for granted.
da3bous Tue, Apr-13-2004, 03:37:01 AM well eyah I am young (23 almost 24) but I paid for the car myself with money I made working.
I had some girl lean out of a car once and ask me if it was my dads car or was it mine and I looked over stone cold face and said" My parents are dead" and you should've seen the look on her face lol priceless
jerrygee Tue, Apr-13-2004, 03:41:04 AM I'm 56 and no one mistakes my M3 for my dad’s car.
PhatIBP Tue, Apr-13-2004, 04:02:50 AM Most of the people I know with an M3 are between the ages 19-22. That's about 4-5 people that I know where i'm from. I dont have one myself, but i do have an IS300 :rockband:
RuFiO Tue, Apr-13-2004, 04:06:32 AM Im 16 looking at buying bmw m3 04...
AlanBM3 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 04:11:53 AM I'm 23 and most people just tell me I have a nice car and don't really make a reference to my age. Only one time there was a guy who said, "nice car, is it yours?" I also have plenty of friends with M3's and other nice cars, but then again I grew up in Beverly Hills.
Most people can't even tell the difference between a 325 and an M3 so go figure.
RSGalindo01 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 05:16:30 AM Well I'm 20 and I'm about to order my M3. Since the military is paying for my school, my parents are helping me buy this car. I wouldn't say I'm spoiled or rich though.
DaBean Tue, Apr-13-2004, 05:22:23 AM sorry - I don't understand - if you are 40, then why did he mistake you for a "rich college kid"??
Although CMU doesn't lack that type... I've seen at 3 E46 M3s around campus, 1 E36, and tons of BMW Merc Audi Lexus...
mk112288 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 05:42:27 AM Yea, I think owning a car like this will get people to judge you very quickly. As an example, I am in high school right now and I plan on getting one, that my dad and I would share. But I dont even want to think of the response that I will get at school, so I'm going to prevent that by.... WALKING TO SCHOOL! Anyways, a lot of the kids have no respect for what others have, so I wouldnt want to risk having the car keyed. Yet for some odd reason there are kids that have expensive cars that are actually THEIRS like an: 2003 S430, 2004 330ci, 2003 M5, and the best one a Noble M12. So I think if you're not out there showing off your car to the entire world, then I dont think that people will accuse you of being a "spoiled brat."
-Mark
DaBean Tue, Apr-13-2004, 05:45:01 AM Yet for some odd reason there are kids that have expensive cars that are actually THEIRS like an: 2003 S430, 2004 330ci, 2003 M5, and the best one a Noble M12. So I think if you're not out there showing off your car to the entire world, then I dont think that people will accuse you of being a "spoiled brat."
-Mark
That'd be nice... but even if you do get the car for your own enjoyment (which is the reason I'm getting it; not as a money showcase) there will still be the people who will accuse you of being a "spoiled brat." - no way around that.
What kind of hs do you go to if kids have their own S430 M5 and M12??!?!?!??
RuFiO Tue, Apr-13-2004, 05:57:52 AM there will still be the people who will accuse you of being a "spoiled brat." - no way around that.
Then You say Yeah i Know life is good With a big smile on youre face :thumbsup:
every time they see youre car it makes them mad and the only way they can release it is by calling you a spoiled brat so you just rub it in more and they'll never say anything again...
qqbennyqq Tue, Apr-13-2004, 06:05:40 AM hi i am 18 and i dont have a m3 but i have been saving up for a m3 for about 8 years, (ever sicne the e36 m3 came out), i am a colllege student and saved up enough to maybe get a used m3 in the fall(when financial aid helps me complete the last of my savings.):thumbsup: . but what i am worried about is gas and insurance since i pay for everything my self (except for housing). i am full time student at CSULB and a Parttime Internet Sales at Toyota Cerritos.
daytonaviolet Tue, Apr-13-2004, 06:09:51 AM i think there are several categories which alot of m3 owners on this board fall under. perhaps we need to take a poll on what the actual numbers are? here is my guess..... and im not trying to flame on anyone.. just making assumptions .. :dance:
50% : over 35 years old, married with kids..purchased own car. (hardly ever post)
30% : 25 years old and older, working and purchased own car.
10% : 18-24 years old, working and purchased own car.
10% : 18-22 years old, going to school and parents helped purchase the car. unless these guys have a really big piggy bank.. it hard to believe they purchased there ///M all by themselves. most guys this age are still trying to figure out what they are doing with there lives.. yet alone trying to purchase a $60k automobile. so that's why when non-m3 owners see these last two category.. they assume parents bought the car..
the average person who post on a daily basis are 18-30 to year old people...who have more spare time to post...
this is just my guess... :dance: ...
ufgator Tue, Apr-13-2004, 06:38:37 AM IMO it seems like its moslty people in their 20's, im 19 and i know a lot of other kids my age that have M3's.
dude,
yes, i'm 22 and have an M3 but please....honestly, we are NOT the majority of M3 owners!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, we actually have the time to log onto a forum and create our own brand of car loving culture but we are by no means the $$$ makers on this forum! Now, if you've started your own internet business and make serious bank than I am genuinely sorry, but chances are your parents bought that ///M for you (they did for me).
Fly'n DuthhMan Tue, Apr-13-2004, 06:50:01 AM I say screw anyone that wants to run socio-economic smack at you for your hobby of choice. Just because you didn't blow an opportunity to make something or yourself, or for that matter your parents worked thier butts off to provide the best in luxury to thier children, shouldn't make you feel bad or guilty just because some aspiring Jerry Spring guest knocked up his GF at 19 wants to runs some weak schtick.
My philosophy is this: if you enjoy the hobby while making a few friends along the way and you appreciate what you've earned or been given, then don't let anyone get to you.
One of my friends that isn't into cars commented that these webforums are nothing more than therapy & support groups for car geeks. I guess there is a certain amount of truth to that, but what the hell, its more productive than a drug habit.
motzekryen Tue, Apr-13-2004, 06:54:02 AM I have two pals that are in their early 20's that purchased m3's w/ hard earned dollars. One is a pro skateboarder and the other is a computer programmer. The looks we would get rolling up to a skate spot in a couple of brand spankin new black m3's was priceless.
daihard Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:07:40 AM 50% : over 35 years old, married with kids..purchased own car. (hardly ever post)
I may be the only one who falls into that category and still posts 15+ messages here every day. ;)
NRG Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:57:01 AM well eyah I am young (23 almost 24) but I paid for the car myself with money I made working.
I had some girl lean out of a car once and ask me if it was my dads car or was it mine and I looked over stone cold face and said" My parents are dead" and you should've seen the look on her face lol priceless
You crazed son of a gun you... unless this is true. eek
heelsonwheels Tue, Apr-13-2004, 10:45:46 AM Hey I'm over 40 and I looooove the 333 hp.
My "peer" and "friend" asked me of I thought I was a "young rich college kid" by owning one.
I gotta ask you guys: what _IS_ the public image of guys who own these cars?
Just curious... .
give'em hell billy;
i'm >40 too, i don't need baby seats anymore and am alone in the
car or w/just 1 passenger 80% of the time.
comments, eh, people need something/someone to talk about.
besides i run late alot, so i figured an M3 would help keep me
on schedule...lol
joe :beer:
xtc4us Tue, Apr-13-2004, 02:18:05 PM I love being 26 and having a 2004 Dinan/BavHyperSports modded M3. I own the high school/college kids and you ole farts!!! I LOVE IT! :thumbsup:
:bow: www.Bavhypersports.com
Cabby Tue, Apr-13-2004, 02:19:18 PM If I had this car in college, I would have gray hair now. It would get keyed within days of being in any college parking lot.
SpecialK Tue, Apr-13-2004, 02:20:23 PM Billy, I'm over 40 as well, 42. They're all wrong. Demographics for the M3 are higher in the 40-50 range which is a better approximation. Basically that group has more money to throw around because they've been working longer. Yep, some kids dad is going to buy him or her an M3 at some point. I worked my tail off as a door gunner and on numerous carriers launching aircraft off the pointy end into harms way so we could talk like this without the Crusades coming back to get us. Driving an M3 to me is like terrain hugging low-level flight . . . it's fun . . . every day! Demographics for this board are lower. "Rich college kid" . . . tell him he's one too and offer to have him buy you a beer and call it even. Give him a ride first, he may end up with one in his garage.
SpecialK Tue, Apr-13-2004, 02:21:46 PM For clarity's sake. I wasn't insinuating that the rest of the lot didn't work for their car either.
Charlie3 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 06:49:15 PM I don't mean to be rude, but I think your friend is kind of ignorant. Most M3 drivers are about 30-40. A lot of younger kids can't afford the M3. A lot of the people that post here may be younger, but it seems that many of the older owners don't spend their time posting, many of them spend their time driving the car, or doing some other fun interesting thing that they love, making money.
I don't want to start anything. That was just my opinion.
EDIT: Just take a look in the insurance thread. There are many older members that are 43, 44 etc.
To broaden the perspective here...I'm over 60 , own my business
drive an 04 M3 Cpe and enjoy it immensely..!! The fact that my
Social Security check covers the monthly payment makes it even
more enjoyable..!
daihard Tue, Apr-13-2004, 06:58:34 PM To broaden the perspective here...I'm over 60 , own my business
drive an 04 M3 Cpe and enjoy it immensely..!! The fact that my
Social Security check covers the monthly payment makes it even
more enjoyable..!
That's very nice. Can one start drawing from Social Security at 59? Gosh I've got more than 20 years to go. Hope there will be money left in the pool at that time! :peace:
M3 4 SPEED Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:02:42 PM im 18 and paying 4 the car myself... haha very funny daytonaviolet
lol thanx
daytonaviolet Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:04:11 PM That's very nice. Can one start drawing from Social Security at 59? Gosh I've got more than 20 years to go. Hope there will be money left in the pool at that time! :peace:
hahaha.. perhaps by that time the SS pool will be all dried up. we will mostl likely only get Hundai's with our SS money... :dance:
charlie3.. your man! :rockband:
da3bous Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:04:14 PM You crazed son of a gun you... unless this is true. eek
hehehe yep :D
m3 4 speed.....you paid for the call yourself?!?!? or the car!?!?
daytonaviolet Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:11:06 PM im 18 and paying 4 the call myself
that's nice. your one of the lucky ones who can get a job @ 18 and make payments for the next 4 -5 years. do you also have your own place or still living with mom & dad?
my point is.. anyone can get anything they want.. just depends on what your willing to sacrifice ie; home, education, career job, kids, wife...
at 18 i moved out and went to college. i drove a piece of crap for the next 6 years..hahahahah..
enjoy the car... :dance:
sqweak Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:20:26 PM I'm 24, I work in the entertainment industry (ie, i do network and system admin for feature films). I get glared at sometimes, but not that much since m3's (and much more exotic) are quite common in hollywood. Personally, I got a steal on a high mileage 01, so thats how I managed it at a young age. :)
sqweak Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:24:48 PM my point is.. anyone can get anything they want.. just depends on what your willing to sacrifice ie; home, education, career job, kids, wife
Depends on the situation. I was fortunate in that my chosen career path was something I had a talent for, and at a time when companies were realizing the talent was the point and not the degree. I make good money, in a job I love, live on the beach, and drive my dream car. I feel that I missed out on some social aspects of going to college, but my education came from my own passion for learning and problem solving, both on and off the job. That said, I'll probably one day return to college to study something completely unrelated to my career, simply because I enjoy learning.
Seneca Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:34:14 PM Hey I'm over 40 and I looooove the 333 hp.
My "peer" and "friend" asked me of I thought I was a "young rich college kid" by owning one.
I gotta ask you guys: what _IS_ the public image of guys who own these cars?
Just curious... .Well billy the public image is we are Arrogant MOFO's!!.I am a 30 year old black guy (Can Pass For 25) so you can only imagine what people are going to think when I get my car in june.I dreamed about this car for 12 years and saved my pennies so I say $crew every body and their opinions................IM "M" Powered
daytonaviolet Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:34:43 PM Depends on the situation. I was fortunate in that my chosen career path was something I had a talent for, and at a time when companies were realizing the talent was the point and not the degree. I make good money, in a job I love, live on the beach, and drive my dream car. I feel that I missed out on some social aspects of going to college, but my education came from my own passion for learning and problem solving, both on and off the job. That said, I'll probably one day return to college to study something completely unrelated to my career, simply because I enjoy learning.
yes.. i totally agree with ya. if you can do it.. by all means get the car! :dance: enjoy life.. i would of.. if i could of.. :dance:
but i just think... if your very young.. like 18 and you don't have much talent.. and then you go blow your wad on a $60k car..and working a dead end job.. just to get a car... what happens when your 22, then 27 and you don't have a good job? after this car.. what car do you get next? you have to step up up to a better car.. not down..
i've just seen too many young kids with money (from parents) enjoy life and cars at a very young age (didn't earn it) and thus don't apprciate it much.. and when they get older.. what left? if you earn your own car.. this rampling does not apply to you... :thumbsup:
Argonaut Tue, Apr-13-2004, 07:57:40 PM There is nothing wrong with your parents buying you a car if you appreciate it. I grew up with a crappy '83 volvo wagon in HS, but then in college I bought myself a new 328. THen a Hummer H2, and now an M3 (Yes, I'm a trust fund baby, spare the comments). My point is that if you have a passion for the car and the means to buy one, then you deserve it. If you lack the passion then the m3 is a pointless car to have. I hate how people who grew up without money judge people that grew up with it negatively. I know plenty of people in my situation who give time and money to many charitable causes, and many self made millionaires who are greedy and selfish. social responsibility is more important in my mind. Oh yeah, and driving one of the best cars on the road ;) So however you got one, the important thing is that you drive an M3 and share my passion.
BTW haithem, that was hillarious. I need to try that line sometime :clap:
bee0818 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 08:02:36 PM I'm 14 and drive my m3 illegally.
M3 4 SPEED Tue, Apr-13-2004, 08:09:23 PM that's nice. your one of the lucky ones who can get a job @ 18 and make payments for the next 4 -5 years. do you also have your own place or still living with mom & dad?
my point is.. anyone can get anything they want.. just depends on what your willing to sacrifice ie; home, education, career job, kids, wife...
at 18 i moved out and went to college. i drove a piece of crap for the next 6 years..hahahahah..
enjoy the car... :dance:
ya i pay 4 it but i do live with mommy and daddy lol but u dont c me complaning.
daytonaviolet Tue, Apr-13-2004, 08:25:56 PM I'm 14 and drive my m3 illegally.
lol!!! :clap:
bee0818 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 08:31:52 PM lol!!! :clap:
You think that's funny, you should see the look on the neighborhood kid's faces when they line up with their 10 speeds, BMX's and razors - and I pull up in the m3.
Haven't lost yet :thumbsup:
bubbaboy4 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 08:39:05 PM I'm 37 live in manhattan with a 5 yr old and a 9 month old...my wife grows increasingly frustrated by the lack of space in this car everytime she gets in it...i've probably got about 6 months before i have to get rid of it.
JD
Seneca Tue, Apr-13-2004, 08:43:30 PM I'm 37 live in manhattan with a 5 yr old and a 9 month old...my wife grows increasingly frustrated by the lack of space in this car everytime she gets in it...i've probably got about 6 months before i have to get rid of it.
JD
Tell her To Buy a new car!! :bullhorn:
fedderman Tue, Apr-13-2004, 08:49:40 PM Hey I'm over 40 and I looooove the 333 hp.
My "peer" and "friend" asked me of I thought I was a "young rich college kid" by owning one.
I gotta ask you guys: what _IS_ the public image of guys who own these cars?
Just curious... .
I'm also in the >40 club, and waiting to take delivery of my 1st M3 in mid-May. It does seem that many more posts are from the younger members (excluding Daihard ;) ), but I would guess that more than 50% of the owners are >40.
bubbaboy4 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 08:49:58 PM Seneca...easier said than done...i already pay $450/month to park my M3...it's hard to rationalize spending double that on two cars that we would hardly use compared to most drivers.
JD
princeofegypt Tue, Apr-13-2004, 08:57:02 PM Perception is that spoiled rich kid got his parents to fork over 55k to buy him the car he wanted.
Reality is I came from a single parent, one income family. I graduated college and have done very well since I finished my degree in 2001 @ age 23. I earned what I have and I don't take it for granted.
people just get jealous, that's all.. they don't care that you work hard to buy nice things, they just resent you for having nice things.
like me, I have a good job, and I work hard, and I have an M3, and yes, I'm 25. people still give me looks, but what do i care?
fmly4door Tue, Apr-13-2004, 09:04:21 PM Put me in the 40+ age group (but I feel like a "young college punk" every time I get behind the wheel of my M3).
fmly4door Tue, Apr-13-2004, 09:10:30 PM I'm 37 live in manhattan with a 5 yr old and a 9 month old...my wife grows increasingly frustrated by the lack of space in this car everytime she gets in it...i've probably got about 6 months before i have to get rid of it.
JD
bubbaboy4: Perhaps you could talk her into a 97' or 98' M3 sedan? That is what I had to do to get my M3, as I have two young daughters and needed the 4 doors. As soon as they are out of the car seats I will be shopping for my E46.
Good luck with keeping you M....
air-cooledjbj Tue, Apr-13-2004, 09:17:40 PM I think it depends on where you live. If you live here in West L.A. then most of the drivers are younger, mostly from 19-30 with the occasional middle-aged man (mid-life crisis guy, heh, just kidding guys). Actually, I think that it's really cool for middle-aged guys to be driving such sports cars as M's and not luxury family sedans like the 7-series and S-class. :thumbsup:
Seneca Tue, Apr-13-2004, 09:23:33 PM Seneca...easier said than done...i already pay $450/month to park my M3...it's hard to rationalize spending double that on two cars that we would hardly use compared to most drivers.
JDJust teasing bro.........Tell Your Wife The Family Is "M" powered and That in its self is great
medici78 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 09:39:42 PM I'm getting tired of the spoiled rich kid image of the M3. I've only had it two months and I'm already considering getting rid of it for a more mature car.
C5&M3 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 09:54:01 PM My wife and I are both 57. We have the M3, a 2003 GLI with suspension, exhaust, CAI, etc., just bought a VUE Red Line and it is getting an exhaust, CAI, front strut bar,, etc. At the end of the day, I could care less what people think about what we drive. We have worked hard our whole lives to be able to do some of the things we like to do and having cars to drive and modify is one of the things we like to do. So, IMO, drive what you want let people think what they want. Actually, it is kind of funny to see the looks we get when we step out of the GLI for instance. It looks great and runs strong..........guess an old geezer is not supposed to know how to mod a car or something. Anyway, there are more important issues in this world than people's narrowed minded views of what I drive.
GDono11 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 10:00:39 PM Hi everyone Im from new jersey and only 19 going on 20 April 17th. I just bought an M3 myself. I work from 7 at night to 7 in the morning everyday 5 days a week making really good money. On weekends i detail cars to get some extra cash. So i also Pay a full car payment and insurance on the car. However, the insurance is not in my name bc it would be insane in jersey, its under my dads. Thats about all hes doing is just saving me some money by putting it in his name. I love cars and you only live once so it doesnt matter what it cost, if it makes me happy than nothing is better than that.
Grimm333 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 10:06:25 PM 19 here and bought an M3, I pay for everything myself.
I got a nice job, what can ya say???
mk112288 Tue, Apr-13-2004, 11:56:24 PM I'm 14 and drive my m3 illegally.
You know we need more people like you in this world, cause right now I'm 15 and my parents think it would be absolutly crazy to own one.... Oh well I have to wait until November and then I can get it :D but until then....
... extreme depression.... :cry:
daytonaviolet Wed, Apr-14-2004, 12:08:59 AM I'm 14 and drive my m3 illegally.
im still laughing.. hahaha..
mk112288, i believe that bee0818 is just kidding..
so how old are the girls that cruise around in your ///M... :clap: what high school do you cruise at... :clap:
daytonaviolet Wed, Apr-14-2004, 12:13:56 AM GLI
okay.. you got me.. what is a GLI?
johnnymag Wed, Apr-14-2004, 12:34:55 AM I'm 34, and I bought an M3 because it was the fastest car that I could afford with a backseat big enough for my girls who are 4 and 5.
torresmd Wed, Apr-14-2004, 12:51:59 AM I wish my parents could have bought me an M3 when I was 19 or 20. I had to settle for a used toyota truck. Oh well I have an M3 now, makes me feel like I'm 19 at times.
bee0818 Wed, Apr-14-2004, 03:53:14 AM im still laughing.. hahaha..
mk112288, i believe that bee0818 is just kidding..
so how old are the girls that cruise around in your ///M... :clap: what high school do you cruise at... :clap:
I'm only in 8th grade, so I usually pick up other 14 year old hotties.
But I have to admit, there are a couple 5th graders that could pass for 7th graders ;)
daihard Wed, Apr-14-2004, 04:18:47 AM I wish my parents could have bought me an M3 when I was 19 or 20. I had to settle for a used toyota truck. Oh well I have an M3 now, makes me feel like I'm 19 at times.
My first car, which my parents bought me when I was 21, was an $800 beat-up Corolla... :clap:
Shap Wed, Apr-14-2004, 04:30:58 AM im 23 and about to purchase an 03, it does seem that the M3 attracts a younger crowd, but then again I was interested in an 02 e55 amg, which seems like an older crowd car. oh btw, the only car my parents bought me was a beat up 67 bug, all hard work (without the college) over here. I think m3's are for more of a lively crowd, who truely enjoy driving no matter what age you are. Yeah it gets my head spinning hearing about a 16 year old kid driving the same car a me, but looking back at where I am now, im glad I didn't get spoiled like that.
torresmd Wed, Apr-14-2004, 04:47:03 AM Very good point indeed. I don't mean to sound arrogant but I'm a doctor, could afford to buy my son an M3 when he is 19(only 2 now), but will not. He gets a used beater upper and will have to work very hard to afford his first M3.
DaBean Wed, Apr-14-2004, 04:55:28 AM I say screw anyone that wants to run socio-economic smack at you for your hobby of choice. Just because you didn't blow an opportunity to make something or yourself, or for that matter your parents worked thier butts off to provide the best in luxury to thier children, shouldn't make you feel bad or guilty just because some aspiring Jerry Spring guest knocked up his GF at 19 wants to runs some weak schtick.
I agree....
Very good point indeed. I don't mean to sound arrogant but I'm a doctor, could afford to buy my son an M3 when he is 19(only 2 now), but will not. He gets a used beater upper and will have to work very hard to afford his first M3.
I see your point in that, and part of me agrees with you. BUT, another part of me disagrees (I may be biased being in that second case of mine, but I don't think so). If your can buy your son an M3 without hurting your financial situation, and if an M3 is not "just another car" to your son aka he loves cars, BMWs, M3s... and would enjoy it as much, if not more, than the 40 year old who bought his car, then I don't see why he shouldn't have one. I would have to say that it should not be his first car - too much power - but when he is in or just out of college and his beater's gone dead, then it would make a fine second car... just IMO...
daihard Wed, Apr-14-2004, 05:10:45 AM Very good point indeed. I don't mean to sound arrogant but I'm a doctor, could afford to buy my son an M3 when he is 19(only 2 now), but will not. He gets a used beater upper and will have to work very hard to afford his first M3.
I know what you mean... My father is a medical doctor. He was able to send both my brother and me to private schools and then allow me to continue my study in the U.S. (I'm from abroad.) He didn't think twice about spending money on my education and other important things such as music lessons, but he never bought me a brand-new BMW when I got my driver's license. Looking back, I am glad he didn't.
DaBean Wed, Apr-14-2004, 05:17:16 AM I know what you mean... My father is a medical doctor. He was able to send both my brother and me to private schools and then allow me to continue my study in the U.S. (I'm from abroad.) He didn't think twice about spending money on my education and other important things such as music lessons, but he never bought me a brand-new BMW when I got my driver's license. Looking back, I am glad he didn't.
I'm just curious - why are you glad that he did not?
I mean, I am very fortunate to have great education and music lessons as well, but I know that a BMW would make me even happier... I'm just wondering... (btw, I don't want to come out as bratty (I don't consider myself that - just very, very fortunate)... I'm just voicing my situation, instead of lying and speaking around it...)
whitee46m3 Wed, Apr-14-2004, 05:29:44 AM Most of my e46 M3 friends are between 21 to 28. 90% their parents bought the car for them (this is different than driving daddy's car). So what they got rich ass parents. PPl just jelous cuz they dont have rich parents to buy nice cars for them, LOL. and says "that ur dad's car?" man wtf is this s h i t.
whitee46m3 Wed, Apr-14-2004, 05:33:06 AM Very good point indeed. I don't mean to sound arrogant but I'm a doctor, could afford to buy my son an M3 when he is 19(only 2 now), but will not. He gets a used beater upper and will have to work very hard to afford his first M3.
Hey ur a doc? So am I, wut kind r u? I am just about to start my IM residency in Oakland in July.
daihard Wed, Apr-14-2004, 05:38:58 AM I'm just curious - why are you glad that he did not?
I mean, I am very fortunate to have great education and music lessons as well, but I know that a BMW would make me even happier... I'm just wondering... (btw, I don't want to come out as bratty (I don't consider myself that - just very, very fortunate)... I'm just voicing my situation, instead of lying and speaking around it...)
I would have been very happy as a kid if my parents had bought me a new Bimmer, but that may have taught me the wrong lesson that I could have a lot of things my way without trying too hard. That would not have helped me much when I had to stand on my own feet.
DaBean Wed, Apr-14-2004, 05:42:48 AM I would have been very happy as a kid if my parents had bought me a new Bimmer, but that may have taught me the wrong lesson that I could have a lot of things my way without trying too hard. That would not have helped me much when I had to stand on my own feet.
I see your point, and it is a good point. I do realize that I am getting the easy way out, BUT it does not mean that I'm not working hard... I'm just not earning money to work (h*ll, I'm paying to work hahaha). I do believe that I have a firm understanding of what a dollar is worth... I think that it is the kids whose parents buy them whatever they want and do not realize the value of money that will have problems later on...
empunker Wed, Apr-14-2004, 05:50:33 AM I am 18 years old and it is safe to say that I do NOT drive the most expensive car at my high school (newport beach - go figure :roll: ). I love my car and I will always be a HUGE fan of M3's. My father puts forth a lot of effort and work so that I can drive this incredible car, and I know that pretty soon I will have to do the same.
fedderman Wed, Apr-14-2004, 06:33:04 AM My first car was a '65 VW bug with 92k miles on it, which I bought for $650, when I started college at 17... I did all the maintenance myself (valve adjustments every 5k miles, tune-ups, etc.) and insurance was cheap.
socal pete Wed, Apr-14-2004, 07:07:20 AM I'm 33 and I bought my last two cars myself...a 99 328i and 04 M3. Living in LA you have young kids that drive M3's like Honda Accords. It's a different world in SoCal.
Beowoulf Wed, Apr-14-2004, 07:21:08 AM I'm 82 and my son bought me this car so I'll feel young again. I can't figure out that MSG thingy so I just drive around in first gear. I must say that bucking in 1st gear sure does wonders for my bowel movements. It's better than prunes.
DaBean Wed, Apr-14-2004, 07:26:18 AM I'm 82 and my son bought me this car so I'll feel young again. I can't figure out that MSG thingy so I just drive around in first gear. I must say that bucking in 1st gear sure does wonders for my bowel movements. It's better than prunes.
Alex, your exam results are in:
M3 knowldege test: 97 %
Niceness Test: 96%
Seriousness Test: 8%
Not bad... unfortunately, that averages out to a 67%.. :D
Beowoulf Wed, Apr-14-2004, 07:27:50 AM Alex, your exam results are in:
M3 knowldege test: 97 %
Niceness Test: 96%
Seriousness Test: 8%
Not bad... unfortunately, that averages out to a 67%.. :D
You mean I failed. :fart:
DaBean Wed, Apr-14-2004, 07:30:18 AM You mean I failed. :fart:
not quite... but almost... :D
SpecialK Wed, Apr-14-2004, 01:59:11 PM I can honestly say there is a plethora of potential that lies within your first "beater" that every kid, and some adults, should experience. Mine, a '73 Datsun 510, Pumpkin Orange and every shade of primer gray you can imagine (after I got hold of it). Affectionately named "Spot the Wonder Car." My mom bought it for $2500 brand new and I proceeded to assist it's demise ending with a fire while stopped next to a fire truck at a light. Luck? I sold it to a guy that raced them and he had it up, running, and on the track within weeks. My car had been re-born and I wasn't there to drive her away. Life lessons are under the hood, in the back seat (yep, that too), on balding tires, perhaps a cockpit fire or two because (hold on here) the 8-track was wired wrong and you only had one speaker from Radio Shack as you "boomin'" sound system. My son is chomping at the bit as we speak for me to buy him a car. I expect he should be exhaling here fairly soon . . . he's awful blue.
bubbaboy4 Wed, Apr-14-2004, 02:09:57 PM Special K...great post...I also remember driving in Datsuns before they became Nissans.
JD
SpecialK Wed, Apr-14-2004, 02:35:45 PM Bubba, Thanks. I must say that it taught me a huge lesson and I can apply those to this car. I've driven all kinds of cars from the Pacer to a single seat lotus and the M3 takes the cake in enjoyment, spirit, and function and I don't just limit that to this year's model. Each one has "fun" embossed on it somewhere. To me, this is a long-term keeper, and being the HP and torque junkie, I see it as a work in progress just to tweak it for me. Externally probably rims will finish me off at a later date. The driver side key cover makes a huge difference if you don't already have one. I installed it myself so it's "idiot proof" proven. One tool. I do intend on revamping the interior with one-off two-tone leather in the distant future. My girlfriend got in it the first time and . . . lets just say that it has the same effect as a Harley Davidson does to some women. Too bad the kids were in the back seat. Loves the ride, everything about and best of all, she likes seeing me happy in it. Did you have a Datsun as well? My sister had the 240Z which was my ultimate goal, but it slipped away with the introduction of my brother-in-law. He too saw it as fun to drive. Damn!
bubbaboy4 Wed, Apr-14-2004, 02:48:03 PM Special...I never owned one myself...Owning a Z was a dream for me as a kid...My mother owned one of the early 200sx's and my older sister totaled it...A few of my friends owned really low end models...My experiences with Datsun came in a B210 i think.
JD
daihard Wed, Apr-14-2004, 03:01:54 PM Special...I never owned one myself...Owning a Z was a dream for me as a kid...My mother owned one of the early 200sx's and my older sister totaled it...A few of my friends owned really low end models...My experiences with Datsun came in a B210 i think.
My second car was an 8-year-old Datsun 280ZX. I bought it for $6,000 after I totalled my first Corolla. (I was practicing driving one morning when I skidded over ice and hit the pole...) My parents helped me out. It was a very nice car. The engine was noisy and the ride was harsh, but it had this unmistakable "sports-car" feel.
bubbaboy4 Wed, Apr-14-2004, 03:06:27 PM Anyone here ever own a vega?
Awd330xi Wed, Apr-14-2004, 03:19:11 PM I will never understand how anyone can live with their parents and still buy a brand new M3. Sorry, but those people need to get their priorities straight. I lived at home until I was 25 and drove only used cars even though I could afford better. I certainly did not want to drive a better car than my dad while still living under his roof. If I have kids one day and they were living at home, they would not be allowed to buy a new car. If they insisted on buying a new car, then I will insist that they move out. Not to stereotype anybody, but that mentality is just wrong no matter how much money you grew up around.
Robin Hood Wed, Apr-14-2004, 03:27:12 PM I own my M3(I'm 33)
Some things people said about me and my car(to me):
1)Local Mc Drive: Waiter: "Wow nice car mister,a real M5!" Hahaha
2)Local Ice Skating rink: Young mother with 2 children and hubbie:" Nice colour, can I get a lift?"(And leave my hubbie and 2 kids to walk home)
I didn't know her at all...
3)Driving through my hometown waiting for some people(a young guy with girfriend, she not bad at all) on bicycles to pass by, my sidewindow opened. He shouting at me:" You mofo showoff!"(think he was jealouse or what ;) )
4)A 'homeless' looking drugaddict whatever shouting at me: "Hey man nice looking car man, need some euro's please..."
5)Young nice looking girl at gasstation in very old Citroen BX 1985 model worth 2 eggs and a Heineken, talking to me stepping into my car: "Can I trade my car in?"
I said: "Well, you can trade yourself in and your car as well, haha."
She just laughed at me....
M320Psi Wed, Apr-14-2004, 03:43:42 PM what up UFGator,
I'm 22. I was at UF (Univ of FL) as well. But i started an online business and when things took off I decided to take a break from school to work on my business full time. My parents dont have a lot of money, my dad has never purchased a car over 35k for himself. Every cent i've spent since i started making money was my own. There is more of us out there than you think!!
I know of a few M3's out there at UF. Which one are you?
dude,
yes, i'm 22 and have an M3 but please....honestly, we are NOT the majority of M3 owners!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, we actually have the time to log onto a forum and create our own brand of car loving culture but we are by no means the $$$ makers on this forum! Now, if you've started your own internet business and make serious bank than I am genuinely sorry, but chances are your parents bought that ///M for you (they did for me).
Beowoulf Wed, Apr-14-2004, 04:34:55 PM Nice posts Special K. I can relate to most of what you wrote. I remember those pumpkin colored Datsuns all ove my highschool. I started with muscle cars like my good old Tran Am with the screaming chicken on the hood. Ah, the good old days.
SpecialK Wed, Apr-14-2004, 06:36:17 PM Beowoulf, thanks. We grew up having somewhat of a competition, seeing as how the neighborhood was proliferated with countless 16 year-olds, for the fastest car and it was about evenly split 50/50 foreign and American models. Sound familiar? The 510 had Webber side drafts, Libre racing wheels, 5 spd, L16 engine, sway bars, and a tuned exhaust. No clue why I unloaded so much money into it, but God it was fun. There's my answer I think. The toughest competition came from a kid down the street who had two '69 Goats. One black w/ black rag top, the other white w/ black rag. Both 4-spd, both extremely fast, cops always out in front talking to dad and son. Go figure. I had him every time in the curvy stuff and for about 2 nano-seconds in front because I was lighter, straight line . . . NFW. I've always shopped foreign with the exception of a '72 Monte Carlo. Looked good, but the engine and everything else was el crappage. Even my Fiat 131 was more reliable and that was tough for Fiat to do at the time. Probably still is. On the M3 I felt that a symbol of this foreign manufacturer appreciation was warranted which is why I went with vanity plates (never before) this time "CYIBY4N" it just seemed to exemplify whose been ahead of the game for so long IMHO. The M3 is the epitome of "fun mobile" and I hope they don't get too skewed with design. It's been maintained fairly well thus far, I just hope they don't consider trading in those smooth sexy lines for uber trash. This is definately foreign muscle.
orientblue330 Wed, Apr-14-2004, 07:11:14 PM I'm just curious - why are you glad that he did not?
I mean, I am very fortunate to have great education and music lessons as well, but I know that a BMW would make me even happier... I'm just wondering... (btw, I don't want to come out as bratty (I don't consider myself that - just very, very fortunate)... I'm just voicing my situation, instead of lying and speaking around it...)
I'm in a similar boat. My parents gave my sister and i a great education, all private schooling, all type of private lessons, etc... but didn't get me a BMW even though we are a BMW family (my parents are onto their 13th BMW now). They did purchase my first car a Ford.
I agree that it was great for me. The rationale behind it was my parents gave me all the tools (i.e. education and upbringing) for me to go out and make my own money. I made it on my own and bought a '01 330ci at 28 and now at 31 will be getting my 04' M3 at 31. It makes receiving and owning the cars a lot more satisfying.
bubbaboy4 Wed, Apr-14-2004, 07:13:59 PM I'm in a similar boat. My parents gave my sister and i a great education, all private schooling, all type of private lessons, etc... but didn't get me a BMW even though we are a BMW family (my parents are onto their 13th BMW now). They did purchase my first car a Ford.
I agree that it was great for me. The rationale behind it was my parents gave me all the tools (i.e. education and upbringing) for me to go out and make my own money. I made it on my own and bought a '01 330ci at 28 and now at 31 will be getting my 04' M3 at 31. It makes receiving and owning the cars a lot more satisfying.
More power to ya brotha
JD
lightspeed Wed, Apr-14-2004, 07:35:18 PM Uuuuh, what color is your M3 again?
I own my M3(I'm 33)
Some things people said about me and my car(to me):
1)Local Mc Drive: Waiter: "Wow nice car mister,a real M5!" Hahaha
2)Local Ice Skating rink: Young mother with 2 children and hubbie:" Nice colour, can I get a lift?"(And leave my hubbie and 2 kids to walk home)
I didn't know her at all...
3)Driving through my hometown waiting for some people(a young guy with girfriend, she not bad at all) on bicycles to pass by, my sidewindow opened. He shouting at me:" You mofo showoff!"(think he was jealouse or what ;) )
4)A 'homeless' looking drugaddict whatever shouting at me: "Hey man nice looking car man, need some euro's please..."
5)Young nice looking girl at gasstation in very old Citroen BX 1985 model worth 2 eggs and a Heineken, talking to me stepping into my car: "Can I trade my car in?"
I said: "Well, you can trade yourself in and your car as well, haha."
She just laughed at me....
Robin Hood Wed, Apr-14-2004, 09:08:10 PM Uuuuh, what color is your M3 again?
Stahlgrau or Steelgrey in English with black leather, bixenon (standard) and THE FIN :D
lightspeed Wed, Apr-14-2004, 09:31:43 PM Thanks Robin -- I did a search and figured it out.
torresmd Wed, Apr-14-2004, 09:43:36 PM Hey ur a doc? So am I, wut kind r u? I am just about to start my IM residency in Oakland in July.
ER doc in Phoenix. Enjoy your residency, it will be over before you know it. I just finished my residency 8months ago. Life kicks assssss now!! :D
Grimm333 Wed, Apr-14-2004, 10:45:37 PM I'm 82 and my son bought me this car so I'll feel young again. I can't figure out that MSG thingy so I just drive around in first gear. I must say that bucking in 1st gear sure does wonders for my bowel movements. It's better than prunes.
LOL...now thats a good one... :clap:
daihard Wed, Apr-14-2004, 10:47:06 PM I see your point, and it is a good point. I do realize that I am getting the easy way out, BUT it does not mean that I'm not working hard... I'm just not earning money to work (h*ll, I'm paying to work hahaha). I do believe that I have a firm understanding of what a dollar is worth... I think that it is the kids whose parents buy them whatever they want and do not realize the value of money that will have problems later on...
Just in case, I didn't mean to put down anyone who's had an opportunity to own a nice car in their youth. It's just that my parents strategy worked for me. ;)
lightspeed Wed, Apr-14-2004, 10:59:39 PM Dai and others I'm with you... I didn't even own a car until I graduated and got a job. To make a point:
fabadabean, you're in college now and want an M3. Do your parents pay tuition or do you pay tuition from money earned and saved by you working during summer?
jabsm3´ Thu, Apr-15-2004, 12:29:08 AM yeah **** happens some stupid say something like that ......i have 20 and i have to say im a spoiled rich kid cuz i buy mine whith my heritance money and i thx to my father let me that money and yeah he is dead
torresmd Thu, Apr-15-2004, 03:23:32 AM WOW! what the hell were you trying to say!
DEW Thu, Apr-15-2004, 12:12:41 PM I'm 36 and live in Columbia, SC. I get a bunch of looks when I'm out driving but from the expressions on people's faces, it looks like they are trying to figure out what an M is.
Wagner///M3 Thu, Apr-15-2004, 12:25:17 PM Most annoying part of owning an M3 is the fact that peeps some how assume you were given it. I'm 25 and worked hard to earn my car. I got the same type of wrap from some people I work with about how I could have an M. Apparenlty some people have never heard of investments and rely only on their salary to determine their wealth. And in a Cartman voice I say "whateva". On the other side of the coin though, if someone was given a M3 by the graces of someone else.....they should be very happy, very appreciative and very quiet :) And remember all those people that act as critics are just venting their jealousy....so let it go ;)
DaBean Thu, Apr-15-2004, 07:26:37 PM Just in case, I didn't mean to put down anyone who's had an opportunity to own a nice car in their youth. It's just that my parents strategy worked for me. ;)
I totally agree with that strategy - I don't believe that the M3, or any nice car for that matter, should be a first car... an old car should be a first car, one that you can grow to love however bad it looks next to your friends' nice new cars, one that you can work on yourself etc... (see a few pics of my t-bird on my website... dear old t-bird...)
Fabadabean, you're in college now and want an M3. Do your parents pay tuition or do you pay tuition from money earned and saved by you working during summer?
I'm confused - what are you getting at?? Are you saying it would be ok if my parents bought me an M3 if I paid for my tuition myself?
lightspeed Thu, Apr-15-2004, 07:34:41 PM Looks like you agree with daihards experience but still want an M3... Is there any reason for you to own an M3 while in college and live on campus?
If you agree with daihard's experience why do you still want an M3 to drive 0.1 miles to school from your apartment/dorm? Where are you going to park it while at school? Etc, etc, etc.
Looks like your parents are paying for EVERYTHING for you...
I myself wouldn't be able to stand it, but I guess we're different ppl. I ended up paying for all myself -- this way I don't owe anything to anyone.
Graduate, get a job, establish yourself financially a little bit and then buy a sports car. In the mean time get the $60K your parents are going to cough up for your M3 now and INVEST the money and see what happens in 4 years to the money (by the time you graduate). You've got one priority now, school.
Hey, but that's just me.
I totally agree with that strategy - I don't believe that the M3, or any nice car for that matter, should be a first car... an old car should be a first car, one that you can grow to love however bad it looks next to your friends' nice new cars, one that you can work on yourself etc... (see a few pics of my t-bird on my website... dear old t-bird...)
I'm confused - what are you getting at?? Are you saying it would be ok if my parents bought me an M3 if I paid for my tuition myself?
Rob's Archive Thu, Apr-15-2004, 07:36:55 PM well of course you are a rich college kid and didnt you have mommy and daddy buy your car for you? Thats what the current rumor is about you..
That and you soil your pants..but ill keep that one on the down low
Dont you know that my parents spent nearly 160K on both of my cars?
come on...join the "rich snotty bastard child group whos parents buy them everything and soil their pants." Well i cant really be part of that group cause of the "pants" thing
DaBean Thu, Apr-15-2004, 07:44:34 PM Looks like you agree with daihards experience but still want an M3... Is there any reason for you to own an M3 while in college and live on campus?
If you agree with daihard's experience why do you still want an M3 to drive 0.1 miles to school from your apartment/dorm? Where are you going to park it while at school? Etc, etc, etc.
Looks like your parents are paying for EVERYTHING for you...
I myself wouldn't be able to stand it, but I guess we're different ppl. I ended up paying for all myself -- this way I don't owe anything to anyone.
Graduate, get a job, establish yourself financially a little bit and then buy a sports car. In the mean time get the $60K your parents are going to cough up for your M3 now and INVEST the money and see what happens in 4 years to the money (by the time you graduate). You've got one priority now, school.
Hey, but that's just me.
Look, if you must know:
The M3 is not for driving to school - it's a 3/4 mile walk to school, and I do it several times everyday to get a minimum of excercise - among other things.
The appartement I live in has a parking garage, to answer your question.
I'm in Pittsburgh, and no offense to anyone here, but you can't get anywhere without a car - bus system sucks - last bus at midnight on friday night = 3 hour walk from movie theater to appartement (cabs **** here too)
Anyways, I don't want to come out as a bratty kid, because I don't consider myself bratty at all. I consider myself VERY fortunate, and I'm not gonna say no to taking advantage of that... I think anyone here would have done the same thing.
Anyways, I'm not getting 60k for my car; 35k's my parent's budget - anything over that, I will pay myself - probably 6-7k for what I'm looking at.
School is my priority now, and don't even get me started on that: CMU is the least fun school you could ever attend - party life sucks, there's nothing to do around here, and if I did not prioritize school, I would have gone to some 2nd tier school in cali and partied all day and night long.
If I wanted a sports car I would not be looking at the M3. The reason I love the car so much is that it's big enough for me to drive friends around - none of which have a car, btw, so having one will be a nice change. It's also roomy enough for me to bring luggage home to seattle during summer.
Look, I know that I'm very lucky in what I'm getting, but I'm not going to say no since my dad offered.
DaBean Thu, Apr-15-2004, 07:45:25 PM well of course you are a rich college kid and didnt you have mommy and daddy buy your car for you? Thats what the current rumor is about you..
That and you soil your pants..but ill keep that one on the down low
Dont you know that my parents spent nearly 160K on both of my cars?
come on...join the "rich snotty bastard child group whos parents buy them everything and soil their pants." Well i cant really be part of that group cause of the "pants" thing
? ?
Awd330xi Thu, Apr-15-2004, 07:49:33 PM This thread is pointless.
:violin:
Rob's Archive Thu, Apr-15-2004, 07:52:44 PM ? ?
It's called humor....
bubbaboy4 Thu, Apr-15-2004, 07:57:33 PM Fabadabean...my father would have never offered to pay for an M3 while i was in school, but i have to be honest with myself and say that if he had offered to pay for one i would have definitely taken him up on it...it's only natural that most people would
JD
DaBean Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:01:46 PM Fabadabean...my father would have never offered to pay for an M3 while i was in school, but i have to be honest with myself and say that if he had offered to pay for one i would have definitely taken him up on it...it's only natural that most people would
JD
Which is why I said yes... keep in mind I actually realize how lucky I am, unlike many of my friends who are in the same situation and consider it normal... And also, he's not putting in the full price - just over half of a new one...
Anyways, this thread is doing nothing but getting people pissed at each other for silly reasons
mods - please close it down
daytonaviolet Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:08:40 PM Cant we all just get along? :clap:
lightspeed Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:15:35 PM I find it incredible that you're a "Moderator" and can post such inflamatory and attacking post to a member of m3forum.com community.
You should be stripped off of your "Moderator" status for immaturity. BTW, since it is obvious you DID NOT get your "Moderator" status out of maturity, how much money did you "donate" to Frank to get a "Moderator" status?
Sad.
well of course you are a rich college kid and didnt you have mommy and daddy buy your car for you? Thats what the current rumor is about you..
That and you soil your pants..but ill keep that one on the down low
Dont you know that my parents spent nearly 160K on both of my cars?
come on...join the "rich snotty bastard child group whos parents buy them everything and soil their pants." Well i cant really be part of that group cause of the "pants" thing
DaBean Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:18:33 PM I find it incredible that you're a "Moderator" and can post such inflamatory and attacking post to a member of m3forum.com community.
You should be stripped off of your "Moderator" status for immaturity. BTW, since it is obvious you DID NOT get your "Moderator" status out of maturity, how much money did you "donate" to Frank to get a "Moderator" status?
Sad.
Agreed...
Hey - lightspeed, thanks for pointing him out for me... sorry I got on the defensive earlier... peace? :beer:
lightspeed Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:20:49 PM Fabadabean :beer:
TheFallen Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:20:49 PM busted ass all through highschool and made a few good investments in the stock market... barely afforded a used m3.. i drive daily to school here at UCSD, campus is pretty safe. I get a lot of ppl wanting to see what they can do against me on the streets and are often times happy of losing because most M3 owners are generally not aggressive drivers. I'm 20 btw.
As for the post about what you're willing to sacrafice. I 've lived in San Diego for 12 years now. Going to UCSD allowed me to stay at home and save my parents some $$ for rent. I ASKED to live at home because i dont' think it's necessary for my parents to shell out 12k on rent per year. They pay for my insurance which i'm grateful for.
For eeveryone that thinks instead of buying a car, moving out is the priorityi dont' think it's a good way to go. Drive a nice car now, enjoy it while i can, when i graduate, i'm going to downpay my own place with the rest of the money i have going, and move out. Besides, I love my parents, unlike most people who are DYING to move out at the age of 18. Moving out, pay a huge rent, just to prove to you that i'm not "living with my parents" would be retarded. Literally.
Whenever someone says, wow... it's amazing that you paid for the car yourself without the help of parents, i'd reply, my parents help me alot.. they pay for my insurance and my tuition and they don't charge me rent at home = p I'll never feel more superior to other ppl because i didn't have the car handed to me because until i make my own way in every aspect of life, i will always feel somewhat supported by my folks
torresmd Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:24:43 PM We all have at least one thing in common, we all drive one of sport cars ever made, and we are all very passionate about owning one. More power to all of us.
Rob's Archive Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:34:15 PM wow...i guess a joke just doesnt translate well over the internet.
Well ill just go tell Frank to have my mod powers yanked because i was being sarcastic about the common thought that if you own a BMW your mommy and daddy bought it for you... and that not all rumors are true...
Billy obviously doesnt soil his pants and im not sure as to how he acquired his car but based on the fact that he is upset that someone called him a rich college kid...i would think that he probably paid for it himself.
Next im ill be certain to clear my jokes with the District Istitute of Comedy for Kids (since im immature)
DaBean Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:36:38 PM wow...i guess a joke just doesnt translate well over the internet.
Well ill just go tell Frank to have my mod powers yanked because i was being sarcastic about the common thought that if you own a BMW your mommy and daddy bought it for you... and that not all rumors are true...
Billy obviously doesnt soil his pants and im not sure as to how he acquired his car but based on the fact that he is upset that someone called him a rich college kid...i would think that he probably paid for it himself.
Next im ill be certain to clear my jokes with the District Istitute of Comedy for Kids (since im immature)
Look - I for one usually understand jokes over the internet, but somehow I did not see the humour in that one... (maybe a :D here and there would have livened it up a little...)
lightspeed Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:42:19 PM Read what you replied below. Look below, you're confrontational in nature, you don't fit the profile for a moderator. You're not apologetic, but always turn it into some kind of joke or whatever... (I feel sorry for your wife/gf).
The best you could've done is say "Sorry all. I was just joking. Sorry again."
Second, aparently you've not been long enought on the "Net" to know that things DO get interpreted DIFFERENTLY, since it's all done in writing. Also before posting anything, imagine yourself saying it in person to the individual (or all the participants) and see if it would be appropriate.
Yes, removing yourself from being a moderator would be wise. Good luck.
Just remember, this is NOT e46fanatics.
wow...i guess a joke just doesnt translate well over the internet.
Well ill just go tell Frank to have my mod powers yanked because i was being sarcastic about the common thought that if you own a BMW your mommy and daddy bought it for you... and that not all rumors are true...
Billy obviously doesnt soil his pants and im not sure as to how he acquired his car but based on the fact that he is upset that someone called him a rich college kid...i would think that he probably paid for it himself.
Next im ill be certain to clear my jokes with the District Istitute of Comedy for Kids (since im immature)
Argonaut Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:47:27 PM I thought it was funny. But maybe that's because I'm in the spoiled brats club myself...
Rob's Archive Thu, Apr-15-2004, 08:51:40 PM Im sorry,
:D :D
I was kidding
IceAge23 Thu, Apr-15-2004, 10:40:08 PM 31 yrs. old Just brought my second M3. (04 Carbon Black Conv.)
I have only seen one other in the town that I live in so I am getting a lot of attention. I do not care what people think about my age, my car, or who they perceive brought it. I love Bimmers esp. the M3.
Grimm333 Thu, Apr-15-2004, 11:26:11 PM This thread is pointless.
:violin:
I second that motion :bullhorn:
M3fun43 Fri, Apr-16-2004, 01:25:20 PM I'm 39 and look younger, I get a lot of looks from older gentlemen, I get a lot of negative looks from other BMW owners, I absolutely hate audi owners, they always need to speed up , peice of crap. Most people usually only see the back of my car and hear it go by. When they catch up at a red light I usually get some mixed emotions, it's either because the car is hot or the fact I passed them at 90mph but one thing is always the same....I'm always
smiling !!!!!
Lar
:whistle:
carguym3 Tue, Apr-27-2004, 04:48:36 AM Hi folks..I have a 98 M3, my second BMW (first was a 98 328is). My current is my 5th car..I've paid my own way, and bought everything I own (education, house, etc) completely on my own since I was 18, and I'm 35 now. My parents could have handed things to me, but chose not to.
This is an interesting thread. The thing is, when people get things given to them, there is no way they can truly appreciate it. I see people write things like "my parents are fortunate to be able to buy me my car, but it's ok because I don't take it forgranted". This is simply not possible. It's like saying you know what it's like on the moon, when you've never really been there.
Now of course, we should all recognize that there is a cognitive dissonance issue here..meaning that if you are in that situation, you have a psychological reason to want to justify it being ok. However, to really appreciate that value of money, you really have to go through the process of making decisions and earning things on your own . Anyone who has become successful on their own knows this. Having your parents buy you a car is not reality. Buying the car and having your parents pay insurance or insurance in your parents name, is not reality. Living with your parents and buying the car is not reality. These are all situations that leverage your parents, and thus rely on your parents to satisfy one of your desires. As they say, the best you can do for a child is not to give them fish, but to teach them how to fish..giving fish satisfies the need now, but the latter is a lesson good for life.
If your parents are helping you or bought you a car, by all means enjoy it. But make an effort as soon as possible to start paying costs on on your own, even if your parents offer to do it for you. This is reality, and the sooner you understand it, the better off you will be in the long run.
lightspeed Tue, Apr-27-2004, 07:04:25 AM Very good post carguym3! :thumbsup:
P.S. Although I was expecting that your parents could NOT have handed anything to you. I just think that it is possible for children to develop resentment towards their parents if they could have handed them things, but chose not to (hand them anything).
Hi folks..I have a 98 M3, my second BMW (first was a 98 328is). My current is my 5th car..I've paid my own way, and bought everything I own (education, house, etc) completely on my own since I was 18, and I'm 35 now. My parents could have handed things to me, but chose not to.
This is an interesting thread. The thing is, when people get things given to them, there is no way they can truly appreciate it. I see people write things like "my parents are fortunate to be able to buy me my car, but it's ok because I don't take it forgranted". This is simply not possible. It's like saying you know what it's like on the moon, when you've never really been there.
Now of course, we should all recognize that there is a cognitive dissonance issue here..meaning that if you are in that situation, you have a psychological reason to want to justify it being ok. However, to really appreciate that value of money, you really have to go through the process of making decisions and earning things on your own . Anyone who has become successful on their own knows this. Having your parents buy you a car is not reality. Buying the car and having your parents pay insurance or insurance in your parents name, is not reality. Living with your parents and buying the car is not reality. These are all situations that leverage your parents, and thus rely on your parents to satisfy one of your desires. As they say, the best you can do for a child is not to give them fish, but to teach them how to fish..giving fish satisfies the need now, but the latter is a lesson good for life.
If your parents are helping you or bought you a car, by all means enjoy it. But make an effort as soon as possible to start paying costs on on your own, even if your parents offer to do it for you. This is reality, and the sooner you understand it, the better off you will be in the long run.
Savington Fri, Apr-30-2004, 02:31:58 PM That'd be nice... but even if you do get the car for your own enjoyment (which is the reason I'm getting it; not as a money showcase) there will still be the people who will accuse you of being a "spoiled brat." - no way around that.
What kind of hs do you go to if kids have their own S430 M5 and M12??!?!?!??
The M12 and M5 are the kid's dad's cars. He also has a race-spec E30, and his wife drives an E46 convertible. They spit on MBs :thumbsup:
The amazing kid is the guy with the 400hp Mustang GT on straightpipes. No mufflers, no resonators, no cats. Just 3" pipes. :haha:
It's unfortunate that everyone who sees a young guy in an M3 thinks that daddy bought it, but it's also unfortunate that every kid under 20 will most likely wreck his M3.
Rob's Archive Mon, May-03-2004, 10:23:06 PM i agree...
no humor here...cut and dry
Antwerp Tue, May-04-2004, 12:51:29 AM Rob is good people!!! :thumbsup:
jacprince56 Sun, May-09-2004, 06:52:19 PM The snobbish image of those who drive the BMW M3 is way over blown! Someone on this forum said that many don't know the difference between a 325 and an M3. I think he/she was right.
When I was young, my dad made $3500 per year and drove a Ford. My grandfather worked at Ford as a plant supervisor until he died but owned the very sweet Galaxy 500 XL--390 horse power! He made me love cars and their power. I am a school principal and am paid by the taxpayers. They frown on the idea of people owning/driving nicer cars than theirs so I drive an old truck to school and the M3 on the weekends and on vacations.
My eldest son is an attorney who argues before the US Supreme Court, younger daughter is an attorney and youngest son is a Pediatrician...put them all through school myself (along with my wife) and now have an M3 with a baby seat in the back so I can tool around with one of my 8 grandchildren. I still get the "looks" but am really too old to notice that much. I am 57 and most of the people I know who own these cars are in their 40's-60's. I believe there is NO "snob" in me at all. I just like nice things, nice people and hope to drive the M3 for as long as I can. It's simply the best! :dance:
pasta Sun, May-09-2004, 08:05:39 PM I don't understand how these guys my age are affording these cars!
Please tell me the secret! :(
riuster Mon, Mar-07-2005, 07:10:27 PM IMO it seems like its moslty people in their 20's, im 19 and i know a lot of other kids my age that have M3's.
No most people on this board are 20s, there are plenty of owners who do not participate in forums over 30s and over 30s to 40s who could care less about forums or what the cars worth....until you find a stat showing me numbers.,, and you know alot..what 3 kids...thats alot? you tell me how many BMW m3s were sold in the USA and the world and do a demographics on this from each and every buyer, then do a frequency distribution histogram..until then...zip it.
60K car...for 20 year olds when our national GPC is 35K...get the F out!
o8OneLight8o Mon, Mar-07-2005, 07:27:24 PM If you have, or can afford $60K for a car you are wealthy...period, the end, no if and's or but's about it. If your under 25, you are rich or your parents are rich, because your paying an additional $4K a year for car insurance...Even if you put down 10G's on a new M, you will still be paying over $1500 dollars a month for your car/insurance... So in conclusion: drive and 2004/2005 E46 M3? you are wealthy...and to those of you who never thought you were, I guess it's your lucky day!!!
Argonaut Mon, Mar-07-2005, 08:12:59 PM I was paying 1200 a yr for insurance on my ///M at 24... But it wasn't my only vehicle, plus I have homeowners and a liability umbrella with that same insurance company... But the point is that 4k a year seems really high...
LunaticDriver Mon, Mar-07-2005, 08:16:10 PM well eyah I am young (23 almost 24) but I paid for the car myself with money I made working.
I had some girl lean out of a car once and ask me if it was my dads car or was it mine and I looked over stone cold face and said" My parents are dead" and you should've seen the look on her face lol priceless
should have told her the car had bombs in it and you were on your way to the courthouse =P
speeds5 Mon, Mar-07-2005, 09:01:30 PM No most people on this board are 20s, there are plenty of owners who do not participate in forums over 30s and over 30s to 40s who could care less about forums or what the cars worth....until you find a stat showing me numbers.,, and you know alot..what 3 kids...thats alot? you tell me how many BMW m3s were sold in the USA and the world and do a demographics on this from each and every buyer, then do a frequency distribution histogram..until then...zip it.
60K car...for 20 year olds when our national GPC is 35K...get the F out!
Well, I don't know about the nation's average, but then again I don't expect some 24 year old in farm in Alabama to have one. In my case, I'm 24 (just turned this january) and been working for an investment bank here in NY for about 2 years. Now I'm not gonna say I could easily afford a brand new M with all the options I wanted so instead I went for an 03. It still ran me $40k not including taxes insurance etc. But I paid for it completely myself (Gotta love the big bonuses) :beer:
Prelude528 Tue, Mar-08-2005, 05:16:24 AM The snobbish image of those who drive the BMW M3 is way over blown! Someone on this forum said that many don't know the difference between a 325 and an M3. I think he/she was right.
When I was young, my dad made $3500 per year and drove a Ford. My grandfather worked at Ford as a plant supervisor until he died but owned the very sweet Galaxy 500 XL--390 horse power! He made me love cars and their power. I am a school principal and am paid by the taxpayers. They frown on the idea of people owning/driving nicer cars than theirs so I drive an old truck to school and the M3 on the weekends and on vacations.
My eldest son is an attorney who argues before the US Supreme Court, younger daughter is an attorney and youngest son is a Pediatrician...put them all through school myself (along with my wife) and now have an M3 with a baby seat in the back so I can tool around with one of my 8 grandchildren. I still get the "looks" but am really too old to notice that much. I am 57 and most of the people I know who own these cars are in their 40's-60's. I believe there is NO "snob" in me at all. I just like nice things, nice people and hope to drive the M3 for as long as I can. It's simply the best! :dance:
Well put :thumbsup:
TexasLoser Tue, Mar-08-2005, 05:44:05 AM Many people stare at me thinking how does a young punk like that afford this car. I had one ask me If daddy bought it for me. I love it!!!! I am 34, an eye doctor and am told I am a punk!!! Life IS GREAT
They need to get their eyes checked :thumbsup:
daihard Tue, Mar-08-2005, 05:56:18 AM I may be repeating what others have already stated, but it's got a lot to do with your priorities, too. Someone making $40K a year may be able to afford an M3 if he/she gives everything to the car. On the other hand, someone making $80K a year may not be able to if he/she's got other things to worry about - such as family, education, savings, investment, etc., etc...
xxweisxxm5 Sun, Mar-13-2005, 02:48:49 AM im 18 bought my own 04 m3 myself and proud of it and wen i take it to school its like im a celebrity everyone knows me and to the other kids its like having a ferrari at school.
dejablu311 Sun, Mar-13-2005, 05:29:02 AM sorry to say but i am a rich college kid that drives an M3.
dejablu311 Sun, Mar-13-2005, 05:32:57 AM im 18 bought my own 04 m3 myself and proud of it and wen i take it to school its like im a celebrity everyone knows me and to the other kids its like having a ferrari at school.
so i can buy drugs from you?
gnk2727 Sun, Mar-13-2005, 07:57:17 AM I'm 23 going on 24. Got my M when I was 22. Grimm 333 is gonna turn 21 and he's had his M for @ least a year. I wanna bet that the majority age is 21-27 around here...........
///Motorsport3 kID Sun, Mar-13-2005, 02:08:30 PM im 16+04 m3 vert... i know how lucky i am and i have the same smile on my face every time i drive my car, just like you guys. i forget who said it, but i tend to agree (obviously) with the if you have the means argument, so long as you can really enjoy the car and try to get as much out of it as you can (as in driving enjoyment, not street racing and killing some innocent people). i have a lot to learn as far as driving technique, skill, etc, and i hope that the M school im doing in april will help me along with that, but i also plan on doing other drivers education schools.
my point is that, imo, if someone can afford a car like this (or afford to give it to their kids) and the driver of the car will appriceate what he has and not take it for granted, then i cant see why someone shouldnt have this car.
keep in mind that my whole argument is null and void if the young owner of the M3 decides to go street race it every night, but thats not something i ever plan on doing. i view myself as a responsible-ish driver with a lot to learn, and my ///M is gonna be there with me through the whole process.
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