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boxed
Sun, Feb-08-2004, 12:29:12 AM
I have a question about how the SMG gear box work.


Is it like the automatic triptronic ones?

By just tapping the lever up it'll shift up and by tapping down, it'll shift down?...

Daft
Sun, Feb-08-2004, 12:33:52 AM
http://www.bmw.com/bmwe/special/smg/introe.swf

boxed
Sun, Feb-08-2004, 12:46:42 AM
thanks

Kevin034
Sun, Feb-08-2004, 06:00:06 AM
Originally posted by boxed
Is it like the automatic triptronic ones?

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Scuba Steve
Tue, Feb-10-2004, 11:53:02 PM
I thought the SMG was an automatic.....Isn't it?

Kevin034
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 05:10:29 AM
Originally posted by Steve
I thought the SMG was an automatic.....Isn't it?

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Hyolee
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 05:12:31 AM
yea, i could have swore SMG and SMGII M's don't have clutches.

Kevin034
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 05:14:39 AM
Originally posted by Hyolee///M3
yea, i could have swore SMG and SMGII M's don't have clutches.

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Hyolee
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 05:35:21 AM
doesn't your head hurt by now?

Kevin034
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 05:38:30 AM
Kinda.

Hyolee
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 05:40:41 AM
Advil Liquigel

Kevin034
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 05:44:04 AM
I've taken so many of those I think my body has built up immunity to them.

Linton
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 04:38:16 PM
SMG is sequential manual gearbox - it is a full manual gearbox with computer control of the clutch and gear selection ( the computer even blips the throttle on down shifts ) which gives you the option of a vitual automatic - but the actual gearbox is a true manual.

I have an e30 with 3 litre M3 engine and 6 speed.

My gearbox was a SMG without the computer and a normal gearlever and clutch. The problem was it did not have a detent between 1st and reverse, nor spring loading to the 3/4 plane - the lever used to go to the 5/6 plane. This situation was a pain.

The issue is that computers do not need detents and spring loading like humans do. I don't know how the guy that built my car could race it as it was when I bought it . At full warp you need to know that you are going to get the right gear !

My mechanic modified it to have the detent and spring loading. BMW does not sell parts for the 6 speed ( any problems = Au $9,000 for a new one !) and would not help with advice because the gearbox was not meant to be in an e30. My mechanic had the box machined ( over Au $1,000 for machining alone ) to fit the detent and springs from a 325 5 speed. It now works just like a normal manual.

Regarding the SMG shift - the first ones were push forward for upshifts and pull back for downshifts. SMG II works the opposite -which works in the same direction as your momentum in the car - pull back for upshifts and push forward for down shifts. With SMG II, there are three choices of using the gearbox :-
1. Virtual automatic, 2. paddle shift on the steering wheel or 3. console mounted lever as I described above.

M3Man
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 04:43:04 PM
Originally posted by boxed
I have a question about how the SMG gear box work.


Is it like the automatic triptronic ones?

By just tapping the lever up it'll shift up and by tapping down, it'll shift down?...

LOL not this again!

M3Man
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 04:43:48 PM
It won't be long till Thai comes and tells his .02, lol he is the SMG poster boy

boxed
Wed, Feb-11-2004, 07:01:43 PM
i know i know, im a newbie but hey...just learning what i can before i get this car next year.

i was going to purchase a 04 350Z, but blah the car wasn't near my expectation.