Hey, I've been researching FI for my 97 m3, mainly the AA STG II Turbo system. It's a pretty ridiculous kit from what I read, but i want to hear the TRUTH from people who have it installed!!!!! Is it worth it? Can it be daily drivin on 93 octane, what other things have you had to upgrade due to the addition of the turbo besides the clutch that was NOT included in the kit? What problems or concerns have you encountered? If you could turn back time would you still get this kit? Tell some good stories about it too. With the AA software, how is it? Are you running lean or too rich? I read an article how they tuned it too lean at first and had a few problems? Talk it up people! Thanks

AA is great. Good reputation. Great tuning. Pioneers in the feild.

No disrespect to AA, but also check otu tecnique tuning. Their stg 2 kit is cheaper than AA's by a significant amount, makes between 10-50 more whp on 13 psi (vs 14psi at AA). They haev a awesome reputation on bimmerforums and great tuning! www.techniquetuning.com

hmm that kit is 3,000 cheaper...

is that a good thing...of course less money is better. but could it be bad?

i'd like to go with a turbo set up instead of a S/C but turbo kits are way more money but this one would be suitable.

Technique Tuning has a stellar reputation that is beyond reproach. Excellent hardware, and even better software. Were I considering a turbo kit for this car (and I did for a brief time) there is no other vendor I would choose for the upgrade.

Seems like people who go FI on their e36 don't hang around for long. I may be just imagining things, but I think that's a trend. Go FI, sell M3 shortly after.

Seems like people who go FI on their e36 don't hang around for long. I may be just imagining things, but I think that's a trend. Go FI, sell M3 shortly after.
I think you are imagining things. I feel like FI is something of a handcuffs situation for M3 owners: once you put the money into an FI kit (money that you wont see again if you sell the car immediately thereafter), you generally see to it that the car runs flawlessly and try to hang on to it.

I agree that many people decide the e36 chassis isnt up to the challenge of the added power, or that they just dont like the car FI, but I would say that "most FI owners sell after going FI" is a gross overstatement.

hmm that kit is 3,000 cheaper...

is that a good thing...of course less money is better. but could it be bad?
No, its not a bad thing. AA charges an exorbitant amount of money for there kit, as it was one of the only options for a long time. Now there is competition (which drives down prices), yet AA still attempts to sell their inferior kit for more money...:nixweiss:

As has been said above by CMT, go with Technique Tuning..his kit is better designed (blow-thru HFM, better turbo, better tuning, more power at lower boost levels, etc) than the AA kit, and is substantially less money.

Richard, dont you have a TT stg 2?

I love my AA Stage I Gen III kit. It gave me great, usable power at 300/300 to the wheels at 10 psi. I wanted the TT kit, but I had to wait on a waiting list and I got the AA kit at the same price, so I went with it. The only problems was that upgrading to the Stage II is not as easy as with the TT kit. I should have went big from the beginning is my only regret...

Indeed. Im in need of more power aswell. Ive got 285/295 wheels at 7 psi and am dying to go with a t60-1 or gt35r. if onyl I could find somethign in those sizes with variable vane I would have it all!

Richard, dont you have a TT stg 2?
Not Yet. I plan to do that at the end of this year. I am debating at the moment between going TTS2 or spending that ~$8k and adding a little to it to buy a 944 Turbo. :nixweiss: (The Porsche would obviously make more economic sense as it would be a "liquid" asset, whereas the S2 kit would be another $8k into the car, while adding very little to the overall value)

What are you an accountant? You know the TT STG2 would be the best decision you've made in quite a few years. In fact you're due for a good decision. You know what bad decision you made last week? You didnt get a TT STG 2!


Speaking of which i need to buy a TT kit.

thanks for the great info. no more s/c for me. turbo kit all the way.

What are you an accountant? You know the TT STG2 would be the best decision you've made in quite a few years. In fact you're due for a good decision. You know what bad decision you made last week? You didnt get a TT STG 2!


Speaking of which i need to buy a TT kit.


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Now who can argue with that! :thumbsup:

thanks alot fellas, this is what I needed. It seems not many people rave about the AA kit. I know it's good they are a good company, but i can save that 3 grand for something else. When the time comes, its TT. thanks:thumbsup:

What are you an accountant? You know the TT STG2 would be the best decision you've made in quite a few years. In fact you're due for a good decision. You know what bad decision you made last week? You didnt get a TT STG 2!
I know, I know. I rode in a TT S2 car at 11psi (off the wastegate as the EBC wasnt working) and it was weird in that it was utterly seamless in terms of power delivery...almost like a CF blower. That made me want a turbo of some sort.

Then I started looking at 951s (actually that was about 2 years ago that I started looking at 951s) and kinda fell in love with them, as with $4k in engine/exhuast mods you have a car making 345rwhp, matching torque and weighing in at only ~2800lbs.

Im leaning towards the TTS2, as the car is already totally ready for it (suspension, brakes, maintenance issues), whereas the 951 would be a whole new can of worms. (although, everyone loves buying parts and fixing up a car, no?)

Regardless, I am graduating in June, and once I have a serious job, Ill be able to buy whichever of the two I dont already have...(crosses fingers:rofl2: )